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Jack White and Brendan Benson of the Raconteurs play through some songs off their new record, “Help Me Stranger” and talk with Malcolm Gladwell from Jack’s Detroit home. Rick Rubin joins by phone. Jack talks through his theory that references to modern technology don’t work in modern Rock and Roll, what they’ve picked up as a band by living in Nashville, how perfect performances can sometimes be unconvincing, the songwriting process on the new record & more!

The Hosts

Rick Rubin

In addition to being a podcast host, Frederick Jay “Rick” Rubin is an American record producer and former co-president of Columbia Records. Along with Russell Simmons, he is the co-founder…

Malcolm Gladwell

Malcolm Gladwell is president and co-founder of Pushkin Industries. He is a journalist, a speaker, and the author of six New York Times bestsellers including The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers,…

Justin Richmond

Justin Richmond is producer and co-host of the music podcast Broken Record with writer Malcolm Gladwell, New York Times editor Bruce Headlam, and music producer—and Def Jam co-founder—Rick Rubin. Justin…

Bruce Headlam

Bruce Headlam is one of the co-creators of the music podcast Broken Record. He worked at The New York Times for 19 years, including two years running the 50-person Video…