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[–]MambaBoi824 770 points771 points  (32 children)

Her entire Twitter feed is full of stupidity. It’s like the Mother Base of dumb shit.

[–]sweet_chrispy 333 points334 points  (13 children)

She's posted a ton of covid misinformation, seems skeptical of vaccines and masks, and claims communists are trying to take over America. I'm getting more and more discouraged by the growing amount of disinformation on social media and the conviction with which its followers believe it.

[–]BAHatesToFly 108 points109 points  (3 children)

I was flipping through her feed earlier and getting so angry seeing her insane misinformation, fear-mongering, racism, and divisiveness and seeing thousands and thousands of likes and RTs. I had to close the app. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.

I'm not a fan of Nancy Pelosi's, but I'll take solace in the fact that even if it somehow came down head-to-head with this woman and her, Pelosi would destroy her.

[–]thaaag 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Based on that description, it sounds like she knows all the shit she's pushing is utter BS (as opposed to being delusional and actually believing it).

Is she selling something? What does she gain from being so... contrary... on every single trigger topic (apart from 'likes')?

[–]BuddhaFacepalmed 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Patreonbucks from right wingers looking for validation. Just like Candace Owens.

[–]UhPhrasing 96 points97 points  (7 children)

She's just another bigoted, marginally attractive airhead trying to get her 15 minutes of Conservative fame by spouting off controversial one-liners and throwing pity parties for her shitty beliefs.

[–]Toby_dog 23 points24 points  (6 children)

I think she ran against/ is running against Pelosi. She’s a quack

[–]Debre1024 39 points40 points  (4 children)

She finished in 5th place with 1.8% of the vote lmao, noone gives a shit about her irl.

[–]thatscoldjerrycold 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Wait this was a primary? So she's a Democrat? Jesus this must have been a publicity stunt to get on conservative TV as a "reasonable" Democrat who will agree with all conservative talking points.

[–]Debre1024 8 points9 points  (1 child)

California holds its primaries through a so called "jungle primary" system, meaning candidates of all affiliations participate in one single primary, and the top two candidates regardless of affiliation compete in the general. In her district in San Francisco (a strongly blue district), the general election will be held between two Democrats.

[–]thatscoldjerrycold 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Huh, it neatly avoids party meddling when stacking candidates in a primary but I suppose you would get wackos. Not the worst compromise, especially if they only get 1.8% of the vote.

[–]UhPhrasing 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah think that's how she started that grab, seeing as she had literally 0 chance. Think she got something like 1% of the vote.

[–]reddit000001 2 points3 points  (0 children)

motherlode?

[–]Invisible-Pancreas 4856 points4857 points  (214 children)

"Haven't seen them in months"

I wonder whhhyyy, a little...

[–]jvoom 223 points224 points  (24 children)

Claiming to be cancelled is such annoying victim playing. The lady sucks and people don’t want to be around her. She wasn’t cancelled. The family wasn’t cancelled. She is just awful.

[–]Melchonne 94 points95 points  (12 children)

Exactly this. It also annoys me when people use "cancelling" in the wrong way, like it's some new fad buzzword

[–]kaue4arp10 44 points45 points  (7 children)

Whenever I get that feeling it’s usually because the buzzword or debacle started with right wing talking points.

[–]gaspatchio 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Right? Like canceling came about with the collective realisation that 'hey these people did fucked up things and should face consequences for their actions'

i feel like it's only people who defend the fucked up thing that talk about 'cancel culture'

[–]RealRedGuard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Turns out when you have a shitty character, people dont want to associate with you.

[–]lookoutforthebadger 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's cause she knows it's a keyword that will cause her followers to go berserk about muh freedomz.

In reality, there is no "cancel culture" without capitalist followthrough. You can't "cancel" someone if you have no power over them. Capitalist reputation blacklisting is what makes "cancel culture" possible. Some people figured out how to use capitalism against bigots by making it undesirable for their employer to want to keep them, due to reputation damage by association. That's about all it is and it regularly goes nowhere due to how limited its power is.

The right-wing saw this and saw an opportunity to claim liberals and leftists doing it have more power than they actually have, so they can fear-monger about it. Neoliberals have tons of power in America and so does the right-wing machine, but leftists are very weak right now, in terms of share of the power, so it was a great opportunity for the right-wing machine to make the left out to be some powerful force that needs to be taken on.

The right-wing grift's trademark is pretending to be weak and victimized while holding tons of power, if not most of it.

[–]Kevinw778 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Yeah this whole "saying everything is cancel culture" thing is becoming obnoxious...

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I have never seen this so 'out of control' cancel culture happen. It was always that somebody just refused to stop being an asshole (or gave a non-apology) and people going "Aight, not gonna listen to this anymore". You have the right to be an asshole but other people don't have to listen to it.

[–]mirrorspirit 20 points21 points  (0 children)

By her wording, it sounds like she thinks that BLM cancelled all families just because her family didn't invite her to something.

[–]Kanorado99 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you Claim to have been cancelled, you probably deserved it. We are now in a place in this country where we gotta weed out all the bad apples.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 3114 points3115 points  (137 children)

"This BLM thing is why my family disowned me back in 96"

[–]ASK_ABOUT__VOIDSPACE 1019 points1020 points  (131 children)

Yea I wouldn't hang out with racists either.

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            [–]saintofhate 81 points82 points  (39 children)

            I'm actually not affiliated with them in any way I'm just bored out of my mind as I'm cooking and trying to steal some thunder.

            [–]ElGaucho56 61 points62 points  (33 children)

            not to be a dick, but the point is the guy does exactly what you’re doing: piggybacking on top comments to increase discussion about the game

            [–]chaorey 5 points6 points  (5 children)

            There somthing wrong with unfinished games. Thinks in dayz

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              [–]begin-it 23 points24 points  (8 children)

              Questions:

              1) Do you guys ever get together and just like make croissants and talk about life?

              2) Are there any croissants or other pastries in the game? Why or why not?

              [–]ASK_ABOUT__VOIDSPACE 18 points19 points  (7 children)

              1) Do you guys ever get together and just like make croissants and talk about life?

              Who are you talking about? The devs? The players? I'll answer both:

              The devs: No, actually we're all working remotely and many of us are in different countries.

              The players: They may be doing this but I've never been invited

              2) Are there any croissants or other pastries in the game? Why or why not?

              There aren't, no, but I recognize that this is a very necessary element in the game and there certainly will be. Inventing food is going to be one of my favorite aspects once we get there.

              [–]CannibalCaramel 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              Is that Linux support I see? Damn I'll have to give it a go just out of principle.

              [–]papermaker83 40 points41 points  (10 children)

              I refuse to ask about voidspace.

              [–]ASK_ABOUT__VOIDSPACE 38 points39 points  (7 children)

              Oh yea? Well I refuse to ask you about your paper maker.

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                [–]traceitalian 17 points18 points  (8 children)

                In Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum a therapist tries to wean Two-Face off his double sided coin. He is given dice, tarot cards and various other methods to determine chance with each new option having greater multiples of choice.

                Instead of freeing Dent from the coin the choice paralyses him with indecision until he's unable to do simple tasks.

                [–]DiceWorkIfUCanGetIt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                Batman's new tactic should be to ask Dent to play a board game.

                [–]Wismuth_Salix 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                Sometimes you have to destroy before you can rebuild.

                [–]kingbankai 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                But people get one life so if you accidentally kill them they can’t really be rebuilt can they.

                [–]Wismuth_Salix 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                I have no idea what the removed comment said, I’m just quoting what the shrink says in that Arkham Asylum comic.

                [–]Historiaaa 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Is there some Voidspace Rule 34?

                [–]ProfessorPetrus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Bro you know what rule 34 is?

                [–]ElGato-TheCat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I wrote this song in '94

                [–]Mdizzle29 229 points230 points  (15 children)

                People are Strange

                When you're a racist

                Family Disowns you

                Now you're alone

                [–]zeppehead 89 points90 points  (4 children)

                Women seem wicked When your a sexist

                [–]GaGaORiley 56 points57 points  (3 children)

                Faces look ugly when they turn you down

                [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child)

                When you're deranged

                Avoid racists like they're manged

                [–]triggerjudgement 43 points44 points  (0 children)

                You're deranged!
                No one remembers you sane
                You're deranged!
                You're deranged!
                You're deranged!

                Alt-right, yeah

                [–]Ryktes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Damn, this fit so well I had to look it up to be sure it wasn't the actual line from the song.

                [–]EDCO 26 points27 points  (7 children)

                Jim Morrison the goat.

                [–]whatsbobgonnado 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                whenever I see someone call anyone goat I always think they're the goatest of all time

                [–]Freddies_Mercury 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                Someone did hand him a goat one time on stage so

                [–]iBleeedorange 44 points45 points  (0 children)

                tbh it might be because of that global pandemic thing. Then they didn't invite her when they got back together because she's racist

                [–]Rawrplus 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                Like if she wasn't a public figure I'd literally think it's a parody troll account.

                [–]CagedWire 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Is it because of pandemic going on?

                [–]PorscheBurrito 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                There's no love song finer, but how strange the change from major to minor...

                [–]KingArea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Maybe cause of quarantine and her job

                [–]KingClam2 736 points737 points  (25 children)

                "BLM is cancelling families"

                Bitch, your family cancelled YOU

                [–]krucz36 139 points140 points  (5 children)

                the fact that they're still having get togethers means the family's doing fine

                probably quite a lot better without her toxic ass there

                [–]radium_eyes 33 points34 points  (0 children)

                She cancelled herself

                [–]TheQuinnBee 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                "Hmm the adult relatives in my life do not want to see or speak to me for some reason. Oh, but self reflection is hard. I know! I'll just blame black people!"

                [–]notjillysboat 22 points23 points  (3 children)

                Her family got together for Father’s Day and opted to leave her out. Not just a regular old weekendBBQ...Father’s Day.

                [–]Noughmad 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                Well I'll go out on a limb here and say that she's probably not the father.

                [–]shutyomouth101 1490 points1491 points  (90 children)

                She should have atleast kept her stupidity private. Your family has seen it, now you want the world to see? 😂

                [–]bonafidebob 715 points716 points  (58 children)

                "My family won't validate me so I have to turn to internet strangers. Won't you please validate my racist thinking? Please?"

                [–]p0k3t0 178 points179 points  (22 children)

                "It used to be that we could have a difference of opinion and still be friends."

                Yeah, our opinion differences used to be about things like progressive taxation, military funding, and standardized testing. Now our differences are about things like whether it's okay for police to shoot black people for talking back, and whether brown children should be put in dog cages for years on end.

                [–]TextOnScreen 114 points115 points  (10 children)

                Or whether a deadly virus exists or is a hoax. Whether masks can help protect yourself and others.

                Soon political arguments will boil down to arguing about whether it's raining or not.

                [–]p0k3t0 24 points25 points  (7 children)

                Actually, this is a drizzle.

                [–]Haffi921 12 points13 points  (6 children)

                There is no rain!

                [–]DeMonkulation 14 points15 points  (5 children)

                Fake precipitation!

                [–]wan2tri 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                It's merely a narrative from the rain industrial complex

                [–]DeMonkulation 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Big Water trying a new tack after their 'hydration' silliness was debunked 😹

                [–]CryptidCricket 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                It’s poisoned by the liberals to turn us all gay!

                [–]Xpress_interest 111 points112 points  (22 children)

                Doncha know your internet family is your real family? Special algorithms have funneled you into an echo chamber of other wonderful unique snowflakes who have the same distorted view of reality as you do. So you’ll always find that validation and affirmation you desperately crave. And you can live your life never reflecting on personal difference, never having to learn compassion or understanding, and never have to wonder if you maybe, just maybe, might not have the entirety of existed figured out in your facebook group dedicated to whatever pet issue has come to dominate your entire personality.

                [–]phaquino 25 points26 points  (15 children)

                Was waiting for a punchline that never came

                [–]ImpossibleParfait 12 points13 points  (13 children)

                Because its true. On the right you end up like one of these people, on the left you claim you're a cat. Then you go online at night and everyone agrees with you because social media is designed to give you satisfaction in what you think.

                The Twitter lady is probably unlikable at parties because no one wants to hear your shitty opinions and people like her ruin every party she's been to by arguing about politics where she's trying to tell everyone what they should think. It wasnt her beliefs that alienated her from her family it was her. You can have different beliefs from your family members and still get along with them. Its not that hard.

                [–]ThatGuyWhoLikesSpace 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                on the left claim your a cat

                ???

                Is this a typo or?

                [–]phaquino 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                Yeah, I maybe could kinda agree with that... I was just confused because the beginning of their comment seemed like a joke

                [–]tmffaw 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                A great post that gets exponentially more valid when you consider it’s posted in a sort of echo chamber, self proving the point!

                [–]Speak4Yourself 3 points4 points  (8 children)

                Unfortunately, around 20,000 internet strangers are validating her thinking...

                [–]ElliottWaits 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                Yup. She'll ignore the criticism, soak in the validation, and go on believing she's the good person in this situation as her family life continues to fall apart around her. Pretty sad.

                [–]guineaprince 27 points28 points  (3 children)

                I took a peek at her twitter. Checkmark, 300k+ followers, and nearly every single post reprehensible.

                The mistake is thinking there isn't a huge audience for this.

                [–]cuntpunt752 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Her stuff only has at most 1500 likes and a few hundred retweets. I'd bet my left toenail that 80% of her followers are fake.

                [–]nodereactor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Are you saying you only have 2 toenails?

                [–]dtabitt 47 points48 points  (11 children)

                She should have atleast kept her stupidity private.

                I've learned one thing about right-wing stupidity. They can't be quiet about it.

                [–]CrescentSmile 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                She posts lies and stupid shit all over the place. It’s all smoke and mirrors to stoke anger and outrage nonstop from whoever her base is...

                [–]ominousgraycat 26 points27 points  (1 child)

                I sat here for a moment thinking the same thing. Why make that fact public? But then I remembered who she's trying to appeal to: scared old people who are afraid of change, and afraid that their family will "abandon" them because of their antiquated views. It is her objective to further radicalize such people so that they will further trust in their own insular communities and not interact with any voices outside of those communities, even their own families.

                [–]sylbug 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Anyone stupid enough to be openly racist is likely to also be stupid enough to lack anything resembling self awareness.

                [–]NoDepartment8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                She's an attention-whoring piece of shit trying to be a Twitter personality and alt-right influencer. They're shameless.

                [–]PonyKiller81 1259 points1260 points  (400 children)

                I used to be on the All Lives Matter wagon. It made sense to me - all lives do matter.

                Took me an embarrassing while to realise what BLM was about and how ALM, while possibly used with good intent, distracted and detracted from an issue.

                Hopefully this woman comes around as well. I don't think she will though.

                [–]Boom-de-yada 968 points969 points  (190 children)

                Saw a sign on the front page earlier: "If all lives matter, why aren't you angry?"

                I too used to think "hey black lives is part of all lives, all lives matter sounds good!" But I realised that when people say all lives matter in response to black lives matter, they're trying to invalidate the latter statement, not bolster it. In theory, saying "all lives matter" is cool, but that's only if you ignore the context.

                Good on you for improving yourself, I know how hard it can be sometimes!

                [–]Zambito1 270 points271 points  (67 children)

                I'm not racist music video

                Screaming, "All lives matter", is a protest to my protest, what kind of shit is that?

                Hearing that is what got me off the "All lives matter" page.

                [–]gambitx007 121 points122 points  (57 children)

                For the most part it's a bad faith argument.

                "are you saying that my life doesn't matter?!"

                [–]whatsbobgonnado 118 points119 points  (52 children)

                -"we should donate money to fight breast cancer."

                -"wHaT aBOuT PaNcrEatIC cANceR?!? yOu dONt thInK wE shOuLD FunD lUng cAncEr ResEArCh mOthEr FuCker?‽?

                [–]polio_vaccine 39 points40 points  (13 children)

                you joke about this, but there are actually men who will derail conversations about breast cancer to wail about how Teh Wimmenz get all the attention and start on about prostate cancer. not any other cancer. it’s always prostate cancer. and it’s solely because women don’t have prostates.

                (extra layer of stupid on their part because cis men can also get breast cancer)

                [–]NeonSpotlight 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                And then they never actually do anything tangible to support prostate cancer awareness.

                [–]rareas 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                I got downvoted to hell in in some right wing corner of reddit by pointing out that breast cancer takes the lives of mothers with minor children still in their care and prostate cancer takes grandpas.

                [–]feint2021 36 points37 points  (2 children)

                When the movement first started for BLM I told my self that all lives matter. When I read the stories it was hard for me to see it. The media always portrayed the ones killed as a criminal.

                The all lives matter in my thinking felt like a stronger statement as it included others affected my injustice at the hands of the police. I was wrong.

                Seeing the George Floyed video made me realize that it doesn’t matter who so and so did.

                Of course it’s embarrassing realizing the message too late but it’s important to know the difference.

                [–]YaNortABoy 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                I'd never kiss my wife goodnight and say "I love all women," you know?

                [–]JustStampTheTicket02 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                I wouldn't either, but that's mainly because I don't have a wife

                [–]SunWaterFairy 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                I'm just discovering Joyner Lucas, and I'm MAD I'm so late. Thanks for this.

                [–]awesomepawsome 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                That video is great but I'm afraid it will be taken to enforce an "ENLIGHTENED CENTRISM" view that both sides are right. Or people will only get through the first half and have their views enforced (strangely enough it will work in different ways to enforce both sides views)

                The best line that puts both of their "arguments" into perspective is that only one side says that they get pulled over by cops for just minding their own business and have to fear for their life not knowing what is going to happen. Most of the other arguments about what each race does is actually what individuals that happen to be of that race do.

                The cop thing is the only thing that ends up just applying to them because of their race. The white dude's equivalent would be I get called racist by people walking by when I'm just minding my own business.

                See how that is a disconnect between how they are treated for just being their race

                [–]Nuzid 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                I agree but I think the most important part of the song is:

                But there's two sides to every story, I wish that I knew yours

                Unfortunately a lot of people do not care about what others have to say. There’s tens of thousands of people protesting against systemic racism and police brutality during a world wide pandemic yet the administration still turns a blind eye. IMO conservatism at its root is a massive problem. It’s a political system of dismissing change and upholding the “old” days, you know, conserving the present. But shit don’t work like that. Times change and if you don’t get with them, you’ll get left behind. How I’d wish for all these old farts in the government to have at least some exposure to all the struggling people in America so that maybe the last ounce of goodwill in their hearts may change their views.

                [–]PonyKiller81 25 points26 points  (1 child)

                To be honest, Reddit has been instrumental in my self improvement over the last couple of years. Weird hey.

                I'm a white cop living in a developed nation (Australian). Though noxious at times, Reddit challenged a lot of my preconceptions and caused me to examine my attitudes towards certain issues more closely.

                Through this I formed a better grasp on where certain attitudes came from. To my surprise I wasn't as morally righteous as I subconsciously assumed I must me.

                It's good to examine and realign our morals and our opinions. They're painful to change at first, but it gets easier.

                [–]foxbeldin 68 points69 points  (18 children)

                One of the analogies i like is the one where the rainforest is on fire. So you say "hey maybe we should save the rainforest" and someone comes at you yelling "all forests matter ! ". Yeah dude, but only one of them is on fire right now.

                [–]Beavshak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I’ve used that one.

                I’ve had great success with: “Support the troops” “No, support ALL the troops”

                Ya see.. we’re kind of worried about one particular group of troops at the moment. And supporting them, makes all our lives better.

                [–]Thriftyverse 37 points38 points  (5 children)

                Agreed - if 'all lives matter' actually means All lives matter to you, you should be picking up a BLM sign and joining the protest, because there is too much evidence that black lives don't matter to a bunch of people.

                [–]rareas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                "Oh, so you agree that the police are abusing their authority. Great! Join in the protest of them!"

                [–]Deylar419 19 points20 points  (7 children)

                I just see BLM as a part of All Lives Matter. And trying to tie it in and only focus on the "All" part detracts from the point they want to make

                [–]RosiePugmire 22 points23 points  (6 children)

                A good analogy (not one I originally came up with) is if you're at the dinner table and everyone gets served food except you. You look at the person serving food and say "hey, don't ignore me, I need food." They respond "no, everybody needs food." Technically true but completely beside the point.

                [–]Prime157 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                It's the same thing as /r/unpopularopinion and other ignorant subs loving to talk about blacks being racist...

                While blacks can absolutely be racist by definition

                Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

                It's a moot point because they're like 1/6th the population of whites in America. You can't fight all racism until you fight against the racists that hold all the power: which are whites in America (democracy + majority).

                [–]SomewhatStoked 30 points31 points  (5 children)

                That's the thing. You aren't wrong by saying "well of course everybody matters". But saying everybody matters doesn't rectify the fact that some aren't getting what they deserve, right now.

                If Bob is sitting at a dinner table with no food and tells everybody "Hey, I deserve food too", what are you gonna do, look at him and say "Well everybody deserves food, Bob" while you continue to eat your meal? No, because he's got no fucking food so you need to get him some food to bring him on par with everybody else.

                [–]neuroscience_nerd 116 points117 points  (23 children)

                Yeah, that’s what I’ve been trying to help my father understand. He used the N word the first time in front of me a few days ago.

                He’s having trouble at work because he’s racist, and quite frankly I’m glad. He’s a white male and now he thinks he’s getting discriminated against!

                Good. I hope people do discriminate against racists. People should have been doing this WAY before 2020.

                [–]SICKxOFxITxALL 20 points21 points  (19 children)

                Oof that’s gotta suck. Sorry man

                [–]Wooshbar 24 points25 points  (18 children)

                My grandparents moved to Idaho to get away from the black people in Washington. It sucks realizing I just don't have grandparents on that side

                [–]MystikxHaze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm glad my Dad doesn't have Facebook for this specific reason, though I'm still half-expecting him to show up on a r/PublicFreakout video yelling at some confused immigrant to speak American.

                [–]O4fuxsayk 54 points55 points  (23 children)

                Its shocking how little all lives matter people seem to actually care about lives, youd think theyd be at the vanguard of the police reform movement, and support gun control, and the withdrawal of troops from overseas, just kinda weird how you never see that...

                [–]ImNotSue 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                If more people who want to use the phrase took "All lives matter" to mean "That's horrible and of course I will help you champion your cause and right injustice because of course your lives matter", then I think it would go over better. It's being mixed with people objecting to the methods being used to achieve that (a fair stance) or as a mask for racism hiding under a socially acceptable cover (a bad stance).

                It's dumb because of those wanting to use the term in goodwill, the humanist champions and the allies who are with the cause but disagree with the methods, those people are silenced and may even be attacked just because their opinion is slightly different.

                I don't really think that's fair either, just because some assholes used a message about positivity towards all humans as cover for their bigotry.

                [–]O4fuxsayk 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Well some assholes decided aryanism was the legacy of the 'white race' and now you cant use swastikas in europe or america without people misunderstanding it. Im not saying its fair, but you cant ignore the wider context in which symbols and phrases are used.

                [–]ansquaremet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                I got in argument with someone on Reddit a few weeks ago because he kept saying all lives matter, so I was like “Good, that must mean you support full equality for all LGTBQ+ people, complete gun reform, environmental reform, and stopping the practice of putting kids in cages”, he was like “But no one actually dies from any of those things, so it doesn’t count.” I swear, the mental gymnastics of some people.

                [–]rasputin1 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                copied from another post:

                "Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

                The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

                That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.

                The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.

                Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.

                TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to."

                [–]DoctorStrangeBlood 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                This is why I don't blanket hate everyone that says All Lives Matter. I think enough of them are in an echo chamber and haven't really thought it through. I think the birthday analogy is usually a good entry point.

                [–]African_Farmer 22 points23 points  (19 children)

                Don't feel bad, I'm black (though not American) and when this first popped up years ago I didn't get it either and parroted aLl LiVeS mAtTeR to my black friends.

                [–]Left_Spot 8 points9 points  (14 children)

                It sucks too, because I believe the issues that would fix black lives would also fix "all" poor and middle class lives. Different funding for schools, complete gutting and rebuilding of police culture, more social workers responding to disputes/homeless, public health care...

                But even THEN I can't say "all lives matter" because it got co-opted by the angry people who don't think being black is harder than being white.

                [–]its_yer_dad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I copied this from someone else and have been able to use it a few times. Imagine if I came up to you and said "the water in Flint is polluted, they deserve clean water" and the response was "everybody deserves clean water." That is both true and missing the point. Flint has nasty water thats hurting people TODAY. We need to help them right now.

                [–]RupesSax 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                I used to be that way too, until the realization hit me like a brick. I feel ashamed, but glad that I learned

                [–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 424 points425 points  (34 children)

                "it's a liebrul conspiracy!"

                -crazy Aunt/Uncle that no one wanted to invite to Thanksgiving before all this and now that they've dialed up the crazy to 11 everyone is cutting them off

                [–]Deylar419 62 points63 points  (26 children)

                See, now what do I do if I'm the sane one in a family that is like that? My brother legitimately compared liberals to radical Islam. His exact words to my sister in a group text are, "just don't become a liberal, not much worse in this world than radical islamists"

                And he tried to convince me that I should be grateful that I'm in debt for the next 30 years because I'm a 27 year old homeowner. And that's 30 years, assuming that I don't want to move into a larger, nicer, home with my girlfriend when we reach that point.

                Yay, go Capitalism! /s

                [–]SenokirsSpeechCoach 28 points29 points  (3 children)

                Life's like a steak. Trim some fat.

                [–]krste1point0 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                But the flavor is in the fat?

                [–]1nceMoreUnto 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Sounds like his family is all fat, no taste son.

                [–]metalninjacake2 15 points16 points  (6 children)

                Dude I’d say consider yourself lucky they only compare liberals to radical Islam. It’s not a contest, but I found out recently my family literally thinks “black people are incapable or unwilling to work hard because they were forced to work hard as slaves, and after being freed they decided they’d never do it again. That’s why they immediately formed a bunch of inner city gangs as soon as they were freed.”

                And yes, I’m the crazy liberal in the family because I don’t think affirmative action and diversity in hiring is going to be the death of America as we know it.

                [–]SadlyNotBatman 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                Immediately form inner city gangs as soon as they were freed.....the inner city of where and in what year?? I almost did a spit take .

                [–]metalninjacake2 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                Yeah...I know. I even asked if they’d ever heard of Tulsa and Black Wall Street - of course they hadn’t, but that had nothing to do with their point.

                You can’t convince people who think they worked hard to succeed that it might take more than just “hard work” for others to succeed too.

                [–]Jarrydd2510 11 points12 points  (8 children)

                I never understood the hate for liberals in America. Do they not understand what being a liberal means? I guess you could just look up the definition and show them what liberalism is, and see if they disagree with people being treated equally, capitalism, equality for race and sexuality etc etc? My dad always calls himself a conservative, watches Sky News (Aus version of Fox News) yet I point out tenets such as that and he's slowly coming to realise that he's not really a conservative and is starting to hate commentators such as Ben Shapiro and Andrew Bolt and he used to even like Trump before realising how much of an idiot he is.

                [–]sassandahalf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Preachers in the south have been preaching “liberal thought is toxic” and “liberals are from satan” for generations.

                [–]Canon_of_a_shot 35 points36 points  (2 children)

                YoU cAnt spELL liEbrul WITHout LIE. ALL LIBS ARE LIERS

                [–]iTroLowElo 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                Stop posting this Ingram wannabe. This election loser just shits out crap like her mom shit her out.

                [–]fleyva909 168 points169 points  (8 children)

                If the shoe fits... Sounds like a great family, with at least one exception

                [–]PhTanks 50 points51 points  (5 children)

                You might even say she's the... black sheep of the family.

                [–]spookification 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Hey, all sheep matter!

                [–]pickledequestrian 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                Her response would be, “Oh they cancelled white sheeps too?” This woman is so lame, it’s pretty pathetic.

                [–]walrus_operator 230 points231 points  (39 children)

                So she's racist and she's blaming BLM for that?!? That's taking "blame the victim" to another level

                [–]RUfuqingkiddingme 83 points84 points  (6 children)

                Blaming society because her own family doesn't want to hang out with her is super sad.

                [–]An_Italian_Fox 17 points18 points  (5 children)

                How the hell do these people get verified

                [–]Ashenox 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                It's a Private company. Being verified by them isn't really that hard you just need to be a Public enough figure or toss them some cash.

                [–]whatsbobgonnado 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                being verified on twitter literally just means you are the person you say you are. It's not any sort of validation or seal of approval. It's so you know you're tweeting erotic harry potter fanfiction at the real tom hanks and not a parody account

                [–]ripshit_on_ham 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                Oh, but didn't you read? She's "dropping facts". Uh huh.

                [–]HintOfAreola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Don't you see? They murdered George Floyd to get to her!

                [–]1PapayaSalad 37 points38 points  (8 children)

                Even the way that tweet ends ( .sad ), has a stench of bunker boy.

                [–]PatSayJack 19 points20 points  (4 children)

                They're all starting to mimic that style of talk.

                [–]DJRoombasRoomba 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                There was a guy a couple weeks ago either on reddit or YouTube (I can't remember which) that was spouting a bunch of Trumps nonsense, and whenever anybody would counter him he would come up with stupid adjective nicknames like Trump would (Poor PapayaSalad, Lazy Lucy, etc.). It was pathetic to watch.

                Edit: Also, he was stuck in literally the same comment thread for 3 weeks straight... just making up nicknames.

                [–]SeaGroomer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                Sounds like sour grapes from RUDE DJRoombaRoomba!

                /s plz

                [–]DonK3232 117 points118 points  (7 children)

                Yeah, I wouldnt hang out with racists either.

                [–]rchart1010 22 points23 points  (7 children)

                They probably didn't want to hang out with her before they found out.

                She just seems like the sort of person that people get stuck with because they couldn't away fast enough or because they are obligated to spend time with her.

                True hate is exhausting and it zaps the energy right out of people. It's not fun.

                [–]Acumenium 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                All Lives Matter is, like most far-right propaganda, a dog whistle that sounds good on paper, but has a deeper or distracting meaning.

                How about state's rights? States should have the rights to do things, right?

                How about eugenics? People should have good genes, free from congenital disease, right?

                Those are good buzzwords or "dog whistles" that can get public support easy because they sound good even though they are used for other purposes.

                In the first case, it's the state's rights to have and keep slaves.

                In the second one, it is used as a justification and cause for ethnic cleansing.

                All Lives Matter is a distraction off of Black Lives Matter.

                Maybe this will make sense:

                • John: My son Timmy needs 1000$ for his operation...
                • Lender: All children matter.
                • John: But Timmy specifically needs---
                • Lender: All children matter.
                • John: But---
                • Lender: All children matter.

                The Lender is refusing to give help and instead keeps spewing a slogan. It's meant to distract and subvert. If your reaction to hearing a group of people in this world matter is to say that everyone matters, you're the one with an issue. It should logically just be like "well, yeah".

                [–]Engedie[🍰] 15 points16 points  (9 children)

                Why did she feel the need to put that on Twitter actually

                [–]Ashenox 5 points6 points  (7 children)

                She was running for office. She's been making everything Political to stay remotely on people's minds.

                [–]My170 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                She WAS running for office, she came 4th out of 5th in the primary so she's not in the general

                [–]BAHatesToFly 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Oh, thank God. I don't keep up on CA politics and was wondering how close she'd get.

                [–]ImprovingMe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                4,635 votes. Less than 2% of the total

                [–]xangira 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                She running for office but her (frequent) posts are pure Orange One idiocy.

                [–]Delica 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Every single account with 🇺🇸 in the name. That and 90% of accounts out of Florida.

                [–]Ackapus 59 points60 points  (0 children)

                And just like a good little entitled racist, she believes the blame lies on the BLM movement instead of on her own actions and speech for why she's facing negative repercussions.

                There are people who fail so hard at self-recognition it amazes me they can use a mirror.

                [–]TheVoidExperiment 43 points44 points  (2 children)

                Imagine being so fucking selfish and ignorant that you think that the BLM movement should be dropped because you cant be racist anymore.

                [–]Chumba_one 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                So selfish that she thinks black people not wanting to be brutalised by police are actually doing it to spoil her family get-togethers.

                I always think it's such a clear sign of poor character when someone interprets the completely independent actions of others as personal insults to them.

                [–]JayNotAtAll 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                I always find it funny how these people think their opinions are just another opinion. Like "oh you like chocolate ice cream and I like vanilla. Why are you so upset?"

                When really, their viewpoints are very very problematic in 2020. Technically, those ideas should have NEVER been normalized, but they definitely aren't acceptable today. Holding onto those beliefs, there is a price to pay.

                [–]BigbySamMelody 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                I don’t know how to explain to you that you should care about other people.

                Great article that helps articulate what a lot of us feel.

                I finally had to tell my mom to stop talking about politics because all it does is makes me question her morals, not “opinions.”

                [–]memeloving69er 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                What a sad bigot.

                [–]MrTuxedoWilliams 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                The Donald Trump “sad” at the end was the cringe cherry on top.

                [–]ICWiener6666 40 points41 points  (41 children)

                When I say 'Black Lives Matter' and you say 'All Lives Matter', that's like if I was to say 'Gay Lives Matter' and you say 'All Lives Matter'. If I said, 'Women's Lives Matter' and you say 'All Lives Matter'. You're diluting what I'm saying. You're diluting the issue.

                [–]Cherokeejon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                Good on her family.

                [–]wutang111 6 points7 points  (6 children)

                Saying "All lives matter" just shows how completly tone deaf you are.

                That's exactly what BLM is about, but your research into the movement stopped at the title.

                [–]Acomenout 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                Can't count how many times I've heard "I can't believe how many Facebook friends I've lost 😭" smdh

                [–]broke_reflection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm tired of seeing white people struggle with who they have to delete. Like do you think nonwhite people have to think twice if they've accidentally friended an All Lives Matter idiot? I don't want to hear about how sad you are having to maybe delete racists.

                [–]AFlaccoSeagulls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Idk man sounds like her family cancelled her, not BLM.

                [–]ImpossibleParfait 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                These people are are the drunk uncles of yesteryear. If you are trying to have a nice night you don't talk about politics or religion.

                [–]NjxNaDxb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Maybe they were going to listen to some K-Pop and didn't want you to think they were North Korean spies...

                [–]Shotsl0l 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Not canceling families, just the racist members of them.

                [–]sold_snek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Nah lady. BLM isn't cancelling families. Your family is just cancelling you.

                [–]imperialrun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                “No lives matter”

                Ah yes, the negotiator

                [–]zenivinez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                this really speaks to the mindset of this segment of america. "My problems are of someone else's making I certainly didn't cause them!" - MAGA

                [–]SweetRoosevelt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                My mom is like this and my dad, and he's Navajo. I tried to explain to my mom of course all lives matter, but black people are getting fucking murdered for just being black and she has never once had to worry about routine traffic stop. She never worried about having an ID ready or reaching into the glove compartment for insurance/documents. She just doesn't get the discrepancy in privilege.

                [–]NotTheCraftyVeteran 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Nice attempt to deflect responsibility onto activists holding bigotry to account instead of on you being an insufferable ignoramus. The “personal responsibility” crowd sure does seem wary of actual responsibility when it’s required of them and not a thing they can use to demean others.

                [–]PM_FORBUTTSTUFF 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Yo people need to stop giving this woman free press. She got smoked in her election, she knew she never stood a chance. She’s trying to troll her way into an influencer career and you all are eating it right up

                [–]SuperWhiteAss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                If you have to debate about BLM, you don't truly believe all lives matter

                [–]People4America 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                If you can say “All Lives Matter”, but refuse to say “Black Lives Matter”, you are a racist. Full Stop.