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[–]WallyTheWelder 1725 points1726 points  (231 children)

My friend tried showing me a documentary called the last fight for Europa or some shit to prove something about the Jews or other conspiracy bs. It was straight up Nazi propoganda. My friend is a dark skin mexican.

[–]Boycott_China 1256 points1257 points  (81 children)

It's not like white people have a monopoly on being gullible.

[–]WallyTheWelder 564 points565 points  (31 children)

Most definitely not. They don't have a lock on ignorance, either. As soon as I realized what the documentary was I told him this is straight up Nazi propoganda, to which he replied "well I guess I'm a Nazi" in a joking tone. THEY STRAIGHT UP HATE YOU BECAUSE gestures at his skin color was all I said.

[–]SleazyMak 546 points547 points  (11 children)

“If being a Nazi makes me a Nazi, well then I guess I’m a Nazi”

-Nazis, sarcastically

[–]MussoliniFaggochini 104 points105 points  (3 children)

"Don't be stupid! Be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi party!"

Sauce: The Producers

[–]arthurom 26 points27 points  (8 children)

You just described the extreme south of latin America , chile , Argentina , paraguay and south region of brazil are the racism epicenter , and them idiots are like brown , ice T type of skin and etc . I just realized it that idiots didnt know they are idiots

[–]mika_876 56 points57 points  (6 children)

project condor and the USs attempts to bolster fascists/reactionary regimes in Latin America has been catastrophic for our society

[–]SenorBeef 29 points30 points  (29 children)

While true, it's a harder sell to get someone to promote an agenda that would probably genocide the person promoting it.

[–]A_Town_Called_Malus 111 points112 points  (24 children)

Not really. Rohm was the head of the SA and a homosexual, murdered during the night of the long knives. Goebbels had a congenital foot deformity, hardly fitting for a leading member of a party advocating for genetic purity and physical perfection.

Fascists are hypocrites and don't believe that the rules they apply to others apply to them.

[–]Splicer3 39 points40 points  (0 children)

What always made me laugh as a bisexual man was that Rohm distinguished HIS form of homosexuality as a sort of military brotherhood/brothers in arms sort of thing.

Like... thas still gay bruh

[–]Irvinol 41 points42 points  (17 children)

Hitler was 5’7”, and the Nazis definitely idolized height.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (15 children)

At the time it wasn't very short, though. About average for a German man.

There had food shortages through the years in Germany, and people that lack nutrition usually don't grow to be very tall.

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    [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (7 children)

    Well, most SS members weren’t close to any Aryan ideal.

    None of it makes sense.

    [–]luvgsus 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Hitler made my grandfather's brother to lose his nuts cause he was epileptic, but since he was useful to him didn't had him killed, he just couldn't procreate.

    My grandfather was so ashamed of everything going on that he fled to México were he became an enemy of war but never put in jail since he was married to a Mexican.

    He never again spoke in German, nobody in my family speaks German or feels German and we have no knowledge if we still have family in Germany or not. And for ages it was my family's greatest shame and nobody was allowed to mention our German heritage which I find extremely stupid and sad.

    [–]A_Town_Called_Malus 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    So sorry for what happened to your family. I think that with the focus on the concentration camps and deaths of the holocaust that the other stuff that the Nazis inflicted, such as the forced sterilisations, can sometimes be overlooked. That is a very dangerous situation as it ignores the groundwork that the Nazis put in to class people as subhuman before they made the final step to mass incarceration and industrial scale murder.

    [–]What_Is_Chicken_2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I wish it were talked about more so maybe people in the US would be more alarmed at mass hysterectomies in "detention centers"

    [–]Ahhulgo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Hardly fitting for a leading member of a party advocating for genetic purity and physical perfection, yes - congenital foot deformity, no. It was most likely Polio that caused his deformity, which is an infectious disease that travels from the stomach to the nervous system pretty quickly and results in muscle weakness especially on the legs. That happened when he was around 5 years old. The Euthanasia program targeted hereditary physical and mental diseases and defects.

    But other than that, yes, a bunch of hypocrites and nothing more.

    [–]AirierWitch1066 51 points52 points  (3 children)

    Sadly, the whole point of the “first they came for” poem is that that just isn’t true. People never think it will happen to them

    [–]DebonairTeddy 24 points25 points  (1 child)

    Of course I voted for the leopard from the "Leopards Eating Faces" party, but I never thought he would actually eat MY face!

    [–]hax1964 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    it's because they believe they are the "they" coming to get others. Some people are cruel pointlessly. I never believed this when I was young, but damn, there are some freaks of nature out there.

    [–]cowinabadplace 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Sure sure, but if you're black and a KKK member you gotta ask what's going on. Like that's not gullibility that's slow suicide.

    [–]TheExWifeCheated 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    It's not like white people have a monopoly on being gullible.

    Which is why it's always hilarious when republicans trot out their token minority demographic representation. 5% of african americans voted republican in 2012. 8% in 2016.

    The vast majority of people who believe that republicans are the best choice for african americans are unsurprisingly just your standard white republicans. For context, the worst performing group for the democratic party is non-college white voters, and 30% still vote for democratic representation.

    [–]BrotherGildas 27 points28 points  (11 children)

    Imagine subscribing to a racial hierarchy that doesn't even place your own race at the top :(

    [–]WallyTheWelder 22 points23 points  (5 children)

    Imagine subscribing to a racial hierarchy

    At all

    [–]proberte87 141 points142 points  (46 children)

    Once had a British guy try to tell me all about this famous historian who was banned from entering a bunch of countries because of his crazy ideas and overwhelming proof that the holocaust never happened. He used as an example, "the guy found there were absolutely no traces of cyanide on the walls of the supposed gas chambers."

    My response was, "Well that makes a lot of sense seeing as how they never used cyanide in the gas chambers, they used Zyklon-B."

    Should have known better than to even attempt to argue with stupid. You just can't argue with stupid.

    [–]twentyafterfour 131 points132 points  (19 children)


    Is hydrogen cyanide. And they did find traces of it.

    [–]proberte87 52 points53 points  (14 children)

    I stand corrected, but he's still wrong. And it was years ago but I definitely remember him mentioning something about no blue on the walls, too, so that source is perfect.

    [–]BlakePackers413 36 points37 points  (6 children)

    Why even argue about what was or wasn’t found on the walls of the gas chambers. Literally the argument there is “walls of the gas chambers” well what in the bloody fuck were the gas chambers for then you sultan of stupidity? That would have been my reply ... in my head about 3 hours later.

    [–]HAM_N_CHEESE_SLIDER 24 points25 points  (3 children)

    Why even argue about what was or wasn’t found on the walls of the gas chambers.

    "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

    Jean-Paul Sartre

    [–]TSP-FriendlyFire 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    "Obviously they're just large group showers. Jews stink too, you know."

    [–]DerFuehrersFarce 20 points21 points  (0 children)

    I mean David Irving (the historian in question, I assume) is incredibly wrong, and it's been proven many times, but Zyklon-B is hydrogen cyanide.

    [–]SuperVillainPresiden 58 points59 points  (15 children)

    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

    -Mark Twain

    Edit: Not Mark Twain apparently, but Jean Cocteau, most likely

    [–]EngineeringConsent 23 points24 points  (6 children)

    This is not a real Mark Twain quote.


    [–]NotAllThere_67 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    "I can't believe the shit I get quoted for on social media."

    -Mark Twain

    [–]SuperVillainPresiden 15 points16 points  (4 children)

    That is really fascinating. Thank you for the correction AND the source. You can buy the quote as attributed to Twain on stuff from Amazon. It's crazy that it's so prevalent.

    [–]T3chn1cian 15 points16 points  (3 children)

    "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. "

    Joseph Stalin

    [–]Redqueenhypo 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    “Stop calling me ‘comrade filing cabinet’”

    Joseph Stalin probably, since that was once his actual nickname

    [–]Ahhulgo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Ah yes, David Irving, the most famous fanfiction writer for the Reich fandom.

    Would have been almost fun to read his books if he was like, idk, a little saner.

    [–]rawbebaba 41 points42 points  (43 children)

    Wait till he tries to have you read the turner diaries.

    But actually you should read that book and realise it's essentially at the center of conservative thought

    [–]WallyTheWelder 60 points61 points  (42 children)

    Conservatives would rather defend nazis than blm so it's not a wild thought. Not every conservative is a Nazi but every nazis IS a conservative.

    [–]rawbebaba 31 points32 points  (24 children)

    Well, I mean, what's actually scary is dive into fascist ideals and values, and then conservative ideals and values, then tell me what the diffenrces are.

    It's a pretty short list, actually pretty non existent really.

    [–]zanderkerbal 29 points30 points  (12 children)


    Ctrl-f "in spite of this fuzziness" for the best list of the defining traits of fascism in existence. Written by Umberto Eco, who grew up under Mussolini. It's really shocking how well this underpins even relatively mild conservative movements.

    [–]rawbebaba 23 points24 points  (5 children)

    Yep. There's this guy who did a long series about the alt right, the right, fascism, and how it all intertwines, and he mentioned he leaned heavily on umberto, and now I see where he leaned on his work because fuzziness around the edges is about as distinct a difference as he could put forth.

    If you're interested because it's actually an incredible series


    [–]zanderkerbal 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I've watched the "The card says moops" video before, it was very informative for sure. And I've heard good things about the series, maybe I'll check the rest out sometime.

    [–]BigbySamMelody 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Hot tip for anyone clicking that link: the "B" in "but" is actually an image instead of text, so if you control-f "but in spite of this fuzziness" you'll get zero results. Just control-f "spite", it's the only time the word is used.

    [–]zanderkerbal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    So it is, thanks. Edited that out.

    [–]Nighthawk700 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    You would be shocked at how many of today's conspiracies are rooted in antisemetic propaganda from WW2 and even longer ago. Heck a lot of what the Nazis touted was just stolen from decades earlier, even before social darwinism.

    Not every conspiracy theorist today is thinking anti-semitism but I can almost guarantee the leaders of current theories are. There's a prominent flat earth book that spends half it's time talking about how Jews summoned a literal demon to help them take over the world and that they feed off of anti-semitism.

    Anyways, Bankers, elites, hollywood etc are basically code for Jews. They'll use reasonable arguments like that there is a revolving door between govt and corporation, then move you to a small group of elites run the world, and then move to Jews are using black people to take down white people. It's fucking nuts.

    [–]Idkiwaa 24 points25 points  (5 children)

    There's a small but significant proportion of POC men who get drawn into these far right movements through their own misogyny and/or homophobia. Its the same as non rich white conservatives, they don't care how much they're oppressed so long as they get to keep oppressing their targets in turn.

    [–]XcRaZeD 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    Exactly this. One summer i worked with a black guy that insisted that the nazi's had the right idea with the jews. He just didn't understand when i tried telling him that they would have burned and gassed him too if they had the chance

    [–]WallyTheWelder 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Totally. You gotta understand that lots of poc from immigrant backgrounds have pretty conservative views. If Republicans weren't hellbent on racism they'd have that demographic on lock.

    [–]isaacYouKnowMe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    There’s actually a massive group of mexican nationalists (source a Mexican with nationalist family)

    [–]doodooindapeepants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    So where did the Nazi’s go to find a friendly face to avoid Allied power after WWII? Argentina.

    There are people of all ethnicities who believe in fascism and are against multiculturalism or intermixing of cultures.

    The Jews and gypsies were such a problem for nazis because there was nowhere to deport them to, hence ending their race.

    The Nazi vision wasn’t one where only white people existed in one large state of world domination, it was one that world was broken into a few super states with similar isolationist/anti immigrant ideals that would trade but for the most part, left each other alone without competition. It’s the ultimate anti-multiculturalism world view and one Russia has taken the mantle to spread worldwide.

    [–]JonathanTheZeroNever got murdered | Mod 3438 points3439 points  (353 children)

    Gestapo is literally short for Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police... HE DID NOT DEFUND IT, HE USED LOOPHOLES IN THE CONSTITUTION AS THE BASE FOR HIS WHOLE REIGN

    [–]HHcougar 914 points915 points  (303 children)

    Ya know, I speak German, but i never knew that's what Gestapo means. Interesting

    edit: ...I'm surprised this is such common knowledge, apparently.

    [–]CheesieMan 486 points487 points  (274 children)

    German has some very fun shortenings, such as ARD: “Arbeitsgemeinschaft der öffentlich-rechtlichen Rundfunkanstalten der Bundesrepublik Deutschland:” The Consortium of Public Broadcasters in the Federal Republic of Germany.


    [–]Paddy_Tanninger 827 points828 points  (252 children)

    English has some very fun shortenings too, such as ID. The I stands for I, and the D stands for dentification.

    [–]nickwales 372 points373 points  (190 children)

    and PIN Number, Personal Identification Number er... Number

    [–]the_monkey_knows 188 points189 points  (171 children)

    Or a VIN (vehicle identification number) number

    [–]kyu2o_2 155 points156 points  (156 children)

    Both of those are just common improper usages though, just like ATM machine. Yes, lots of people say them that way, but that isn't the way they're intended to be used.

    [–]IntoTheCommonestAsh 471 points472 points 3 (135 children)

    Linguist here.

    Nothing improper about it. As I hope everyone knows words are not their etymology. That's also true of initialisms and acronyms when they become words of their own used not as short for a certain phrase but just as their own thing. Just because ATM is etymologically short for Automatic Transfer Machine doesn't make that word synchronically dependent on those. "ATM" has gained a meaning of its own and refers more to the automatic transfer itself than to the machine. [EDIT: striked through this part because dumbasses in the comments really can't get over this irrelevant shit.]

    This is not even a rare phenomenon. Take "laser". "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation" is a process, a way of creating a kind of light beam, but you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone using "laser" to refer to the process rather than to the light beam thus created. The proof of this is that there are now other ways than stimulated emission to create lasers, like synchrotron radiation, and yet those are still called lasers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-electron_laser

    [–]InvertedNavel 275 points276 points  (29 children)

    I love it when a linguist pops up in threads like this all, “words aren’t the boss of you! Don’t let those little fuckers push you around!!”

    [–]LaUNCHandSmASH 50 points51 points  (0 children)

    I've seen it quite a few times on reddit but your phrasing of it just made me giggle

    [–]seemlikeascam[🍰] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

    But it’s an Automated Teller Machine (ATM) ...damn words...

    [–]murunbuchstansangur 11 points12 points  (2 children)

    Follow the rules and nobody will get hurt

    [–]autorotatingKiwi 38 points39 points  (6 children)

    I've never thought of ATM as a process. It's definitely a machine you go to if you don't have an apple watch and need that colourful plastic foldy stuff to pay for things like old people use.

    [–]DixonCyderBox 29 points30 points  (4 children)

    Oh trust me, ATM is a process. Oops, that’s ass-to-mouth.

    [–]3lGuap0 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    I love these guys, you are my not so silent linguist heroes...

    In baseball, is RBIs (runs batted in) correct?

    some say "he had 3 RBIs", other say "he hit 3 RBI"

    I think of an RBI is just 1 run, so having multiple 1s would be RBIs.

    [–]MiVanMan[🍰] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    What’s wrong with Any Time Money machine?

    [–]mralex 20 points21 points  (5 children)

    Do you want to get HIV virus? Because that's how you get the HIV virus.

    [–]verychichi 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    In Canada, we call them ABMs or automatic banking machines

    [–]MotherTreacle3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Maybe in that weird part of Canada.

    [–]Windex17 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    If it makes you feel better, in the auto industry we just call it VIN.

    [–]mackavicious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Or ATM Machine: Automatic Teller Machine Machine

    [–]Memanders 28 points29 points  (18 children)

    In Danish we have one for “for example” it’s “fx.” For example is spelled “for eksempel” in Danish, there is no “x”

    [–]TurnipForYourThought 17 points18 points  (14 children)

    In English we use e.g., which stands for the latin phrase exempli gratia, which also means for example.

    It's slightly different from I.E., which means "in essence"

    [–]stefek132 12 points13 points  (2 children)

    And here I was always wondering why English people use "e.g." as the shortcut. Always connected it to the fact that "example" is kind of spelled like "egsample" (hard g of course), while being too lazy to actually check it.

    Anyways, thank you internet stranger!

    [–]Part-time_Hipster 16 points17 points  (6 children)

    Identification Document. ID.

    [–]Paddy_Tanninger 4 points5 points  (0 children)


    [–]ryeguy36 6 points7 points  (6 children)

    Amazingly, this is why I don’t speak German! It’s too complicated!!!

    [–]CheesieMan 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    At the very least, the letters always* make the same sounds, unlike English.

    *from my experience

    [–]Cheet4h 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Not always, but the exceptions are rare enough.
    "vulgär", "violett" - 'v' is spoken similarly to 'w'
    "Vogel" - 'v' is spoken similarly to 'f'

    Although I think there's not a single instance where the 'v' couldn't be replaced with either an 'f' or a 'w'. But "Fogel" and "wulgär" just read wrong.

    Also, you need to be aware of some combinations, for example "ei", "sch", "ch"

    [–]phurf761 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    How about my favorite from German class: strassenbahnhaltestelle

    [–]themarquetsquare 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Fun German shortenings have historically made great bandnames, like EAV (Die Erste Allgemeine Verunsicherung), DÖF (Deutsch-Österreichisches Feingefühl), DAF (Deutsch Amerikanisches Freundschaft) and so on.

    [–]vierolyn 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    DDR Stasi = Staatssicherheit

    [–]Buzzkill_13 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    Orwell remarks [...] that abbreviating a name could "narrowly and subtly" alter a word's meaning. Newspeak is supposed to make this effort a conscious purpose:

    [...] Comintern is a word that can be uttered almost without taking thought, whereas Communist International is a phrase over which one is obliged to linger at least momentarily. In the same way, the associations called up by a word like Minitrue (or 'Gestapo') are fewer and more controllable than those called up by Ministry of Truth (or Geheime Staatspolizei).

    1984, George Orwell

    [–]JonathanTheZeroNever got murdered | Mod 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Are you familiar with the meanings of the test of the Nazi vocabulary? It gets very weird at some points...

    [–]Duanedoberman 64 points65 points  (10 children)

    Bizarrely, the Gestapo was formed by Herman Goering and was his personal responsibility until it came under control of Himmler when he was made cheif of all police forces in Germany in 1934.. Himmler already had his own SS secret police, RHSA & SD and Nazi Germany ended up with at least 6 different and competing secret police organisations.

    [–]riot_code 32 points33 points  (9 children)

    Don't forget that there was also the SA in the early days under Ernst Röhm. Well... That was untill Hitler thought Röhm was gaining too much power with he SA growing in numbers, so he bumped him off in The Night of the Long Knives.

    [–]Razakel 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    so he bumped him off in The Night of the Long Knives.

    Interestingly they were very close to each other. Rohm was the only person who dared to call Hitler du (the familiar form of "you"), Adolf or Adi (the nickname form of Adolf), instead of Der Fuhrer.

    [–]Plethora_of_squids 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    It's worth noting that Rohm was somewhat openly gay (and this isn't some historical revisionism or a case of "he was very close to another man" – it was a bit of an open secret and he was even caught in bed with another man when the secret police came for him)

    It's probably not the only reason why he was killed (Rohm was actually accused of conspiring against the government with the French iirc) but I wouldn't be surprised if gossip mags implying that the fuhrer was gay because his closest friend was played a part in Rohm getting bumped off

    [–]Ohrwurm89 82 points83 points  (6 children)

    It's just like the argument "Hitler made it harder for people to own guns!" In fact, the restrictions on gun ownership predate Hitler. And yes, the Nazis made it harder to German Jews to own guns, but at the same time he made it easier for Aryans to own them.

    [–]zirittusit 45 points46 points  (1 child)

    Even more fun, the gun control laws passed during the Weimar Republic were specifically intended to disarm Hitler and the brown shirts.

    [–]commit_bat 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Secret State Police

    Good thing we'll never have something like that! /s

    [–]oggie389 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    Kind of....he pitted two organizations against each other, Goering and Himmler/Heydreich, through that was the appartussus of the SD and and the Gestapho merged in to the SiPo that eventually became the RSHA.

    Heydrich became head of the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) in 1932

    Goering founded the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo) in 1933 which gave him total Homogenous authority in Preußen/Silesia

    Then in 1936 Himmler became Chef of all Polizei, folding the Gestapho now in the SiPo (sicherheitspolizei) which then in 1939 folded into the Reichssicherheitshauptamt or RSHA. The Gestapo was then the sister organization to the SD which lasted until the end of the war. You better believe you can find traces of Hitler's meddling, especially with his conversations with Heydrich.

    [–]I_TRS_Gear_I 24 points25 points  (6 children)

    This is what scares me the most. This shit is borderline happening right before our eyes, and yet people are like ‘we can’t let them Democrats ruin our democracy’.

    [–]Aggromemnon 23 points24 points  (5 children)

    This stuff doesnt borderline happen. It happens or it doesn't. And once over the border, it's an easy slide downhill to real atrocities, like extrajudicial killings, renditions of journalists and dissidents, and genocidal strategies like forced sterilization. And guess what? We're already there.

    [–]503phenix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Wait don’t tell them they don’t like to be bothered with facts

    [–]Thymeisdone 493 points494 points  (28 children)

    You guys mean to tell me you don't trust an anonymous letter sent in to some small town newspaper?


    [–]taco_flavored_kesses 153 points154 points  (5 children)

    My history professors in college would have failed anyone miserably if they cited a "faithful our town reader" as source when writing a paper. I had one professor that had a giant red toilet stamp and would use it multiple times on any paper with a shitty source.

    [–]13luemoons 51 points52 points  (1 child)

    Well good thing these people didn't go to college!

    [–]NonGNonM 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    well that's the liberal commie colleges nazi brainwashing for ya.

    [–]RaynSideways 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    "See, you libs don't trust an anonymous source, why should I trust yours?"

    [–]GamerGriffin548 22 points23 points  (2 children)

    If you dont read the newspaper you're uninformed, if you read the newspaper you're misinformed.

    [–]SL8Rfan 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." -- Thomas Jefferson.

    [–]shponglespore 521 points522 points  (20 children)

    It's almost like "a Faithful Our Town Reader" isn't a reliable source!

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      [–]ColdDampForest 37 points38 points  (1 child)

      I like how the print date is a year before OP has the unfortunate rectum incident.

      [–]IgorTheAwesome 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Is it referring to that video?

      [–]MrAnderson345 46 points47 points  (1 child)

      I should start scribbling random ass shit down on a sheet of paper, take a crappy ass picture of it with a flip phone and post it on facebook as an authoritative source on political issues.

      [–]RectalSpawn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Where do I sign up?

      I need to know what's going on and you're now the only person I trust, for some reason.

      [–]Consideredresponse 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      When I lived in New Jersey the local 'our town' was nothing but right wing radio talking points and facebook memes printed out for people who refuse to learn how to use computers, with the whole thing held together by more ads than you could imagine.

      This looks pretty par for the course for them.

      [–]Stirnlappenbasilisk 83 points84 points  (12 children)

      How could you establish a facist regime without police anyway?

      [–]SpatialCandy69 30 points31 points  (2 children)


      [–]awesomefutureperfect 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      This is the basis of all conservative economic thought and how they expect to solve any and all societal ills. That if you stick to the plan and do everything right (obey republicans the church and your elders), the just world will give you and everyone else who deserves it the American dream.

      And when that turns out to be a total lie; that you yourself have a responsibility to make your own decisions and create a better future by creating a decent present, well then it's gamer scapegoat time.

      [–]kateshakes 1085 points1086 points  (110 children)

      Haha Hitler was genuinely the prime example of a totalitarian police state, where police have all the power and don't have the same laws apply to themselves, including for murder where victims didnt fit with his ideology of a perfect aryan race.

      Does any of that sound even slightly familiar, self aware wolves?

      [–]Kraelman 348 points349 points  (23 children)

      [–]TanneriteTeddy 60 points61 points  (8 children)

      Hey look, more hitch hikers!

      PICK EM UP!

      [–]ItsDayYacht 24 points25 points  (1 child)

      You wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?


      [–]ItsDayYacht 12 points13 points  (2 children)









      [–]spookyghostface 5 points6 points  (1 child)









      [–]Deadlymonkey 81 points82 points  (10 children)

      You’re gonna have to limit yourself to 2 syllables per word if you’re expecting a response.

      [–]zapwall 27 points28 points  (9 children)

      Seriously if Hitler was alive today some people in USA would still be arguing about How much good he can do for the country unless of course he is not American.

      [–]shirtsMcPherson 28 points29 points  (8 children)

      There were legit Nazi rallies in the US, in Madison square garden I believe. There are pictures, thousands of Nazi sympathizers in the US.

      Somehow this all gets swept under the rug.



      [–]ASTR0Z0MB13_2187 730 points731 points  (66 children)

      What in alternative history is this shit?? Did they never read the Diary of Anne Frank? Did they know anything about Gestapo and SS??

      [–]PICKLEOFDOOOM 632 points633 points  (22 children)

      Ah yes, the Nazi Regime, known famously for lack of authority

      [–]JectorDelan 129 points130 points  (10 children)

      Also a lot of racial tolerance.

      [–]urielteranas 36 points37 points  (7 children)

      Well sure I mean look how long they tolerated all those other races!

      [–]JectorDelan 24 points25 points  (6 children)

      Tolerated them to death!

      [–]Antonio1025 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      Especially with all that ethnic diversity.

      [–]ProfessionSimplord 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Say what you will. If you were a half German half ubermenisch child they used to take you in the middle of the night to a place so cool no one ever bothered leaving! They champions of making sure everyone(of non-Aryan decent) was housed. Progress!

      [–]rynoww2 42 points43 points  (0 children)

      Underrated comment

      [–]Mujokan 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      This is about the SA who were similar to the militias and Proud Boys. Not related to the police or given police duties. After the Nazis gained power they became inconvenient and were disposed of.

      Goring created the Geheime Staatspolizei police when the Nazis came to power aka the Gestapo. Goring was instrumental in eliminating the Brownshirts.

      Obviously the Nazis weren't in a position to "defund the police" before they came to power.

      Does this remind you of anything?

      "As he rallied his supporters, opponents of the Nazi party, such as the Social Democratic Party, were prevented from campaigning effectively and were even threatened with violence. Hitler's SA officers raided the Social Democratic Party's political events and attacked participants - all while the police looked on passively."

      [–]pr0nking98 44 points45 points  (5 children)

      im sure youll find people who call the diary of anne frank a hoax

      [–]flyingwolf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      There is a lot of talk about how her uncle wrote most of it etc.

      Also, she wrote about sex, a lot, they dont talk about that part in high school.

      But yeah, people are stupid.

      [–]BigbySamMelody 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      I'm assuming Holocaust deniers think it's a hoax.

      [–]the-willow-witch 46 points47 points  (2 children)

      No, they didn’t, they literally know nothing about history or politics or anything, they just find things and believe whatever supports their racism and bigotry.

      [–]Sergeant_Scrumptious 33 points34 points  (5 children)

      If you're talking about an average american, and the question is "Did they read _____?" Then the answer is no. We Americans don't read. And many of the non readers are proud of that fact.

      [–]JectorDelan 29 points30 points  (0 children)

      As an American, if I'd bothered to read this comment, I'd be quite angry about it. Quite. Angry.

      [–]Duanedoberman 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      We Americans don't read.

      It's not just Americans, Victoria Beckham famously boasted that she had never read a book.

      A journalist pointed out that she had supposedly authored 2 books.

      [–]Wizardbarry 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      I always get confused when people brag about not reading the books in school...

      [–]POOP_TRAIN_CONDUCTOR 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      They just go with whatever 'feels right' because their entire identity is based on outrage and their own ignorance.

      [–]Lin0712 89 points90 points  (5 children)

      Reading books about history is boring. I'd rather get all my historical facts from FB memes and Fox News, thank you very much.

      [–]BallHigh1984 56 points57 points  (6 children)

      I was very naive and believed for most of my life that nearly all Americans on both the left and right appreciated that Nazis were bad because of the gigantic systematic extermination of millions of Jews.

      Then, during the passage of Obamacare I saw tons of conservative acquaintances ravenously eat up the absurd right wing talking point that Obama was Hitleresque for using the federal government to help uninsured sick people. You know, just like Hitler was famous for, or whatever the f*ck.

      [–]jumpy_monkey 27 points28 points  (4 children)

      Also, it was not a given that the US was going to come in on the Allied side until Pearl Harbor. Many Republicans were sympathetic to Hitler and the Nazis, and German American Bund organizations were large and widespread.


      It is impossible to look at these photos and not draw comparisons to Trump rallies and the treatment of protestors today.

      [–]TreasonableBloke 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This is terrifying.

      [–]hereforreddit1234 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Jesus fucking christ.... I don't want to live on this planet anymore..

      [–]TicoTicoNoFuba 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Don't forget about the Americans that went to fight for Germany...for the Motherland. But they indicate that the GAB was not very successful at recruiting them.


      Edit: have you seen The Man In High Castle on Amazon prime? I swear it has scenes that look IDENTICAL to that article you shared.

      [–]CrackaJacka420 19 points20 points  (3 children)

      IIRC... Hitler defunded local law enforcement while taking over policing with his own state sponsored law enforcement

      [–]-SENDHELP- 83 points84 points  (14 children)

      What's scary is this shit is super common. It's not fringe lunatics anymore. I'm subbed to r/trump and that "newspaper article" was posted there and everyone was agreeing with it and talking about how they needed to start doing something before the evil antifa broke the country. It's just... Fucking scary

      [–]SenorBeef 59 points60 points  (11 children)

      It's so strange to me that people aren't remarking on how much of a change we've seen in 20 years. 20 years ago, holocaust denial and 9/11 conspiracies and stuff were well known but everyone who believed them was regarded as a kook. Certainly no one in the mainstream supported them. Now the equivelant of those things, or worse, is basically the official party platform of the Republican party. We've gone from a tiny fringe of people with no power believing in this crazy shit to the people in power creating this crazy shit to motivate their base to do crazy things.

      [–]Yorikor 28 points29 points  (2 children)

      Go to Europe 20 years before Hitler got into power. Ask around which country is most likely to start exterminating the Jews and which one is most likely to offer refuge to them in the same event.

      I bet you all the money in the world that the average European would say Germany would be the country offering refuge.

      It's very easy for a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Yes, it's very interesting. I think I remember hearing France was known as the most anti semetic. Germany was known for quite the opposite, they were seen as very accepting and forward thinking.

      [–]rawbebaba 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      That's the power of mainstreaming.

      [–]SenorBeef 52 points53 points  (0 children)

      Ah yes. Adolf Hitler, famous leftist-libertarian hero who defunded the police, took down the police state, and saved Germany from authoritarianism.

      [–]beerbellybegoneRule I - Posts must include a murder or a burn.[S] 145 points146 points  (6 children)

      “It’s simply not true that Hitler defunded the police. He ran on a law and order program, and it was a very harsh criminal justice policy the Nazis pursued,” said David Blackbourn, a scholar of modern German history and a professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville.

      I mean, has this guy never heard of the Gestapo or the SS?

      [–]ChooseAndAct 14 points15 points  (4 children)

      This is 1933. The police hated Hitler then, that's why he defunded them to replace them.

      [–]PurpleSmartHeart 131 points132 points  (86 children)

      They are literally Nazis. It's not even a secret. It hasn't been.

      Why are there not people storming ICE facilities right tf now?

      [–]EkkenCoron 61 points62 points  (18 children)


      [–]BadArtijoke 71 points72 points  (16 children)

      Worse. Indifference.

      [–]SleazyMak 41 points42 points  (8 children)

      “Scientists talk about dark matter, the invisible, mysterious substance that occupies the space between stars. Dark matter makes up 99.99 percent of the universe, and they don't know what it is. Well I do. It's apathy. That's the truth of it; pile together everything we know and care about in the universe and it will still be nothing more than a tiny speck in the middle of a vast black ocean of Who Gives a Fuck.”

      David Wong, John Dies at the End

      [–]The_Dapper_Dog 11 points12 points  (5 children)

      That book and movie is so much fun. Haven't gotten around to reading This Book is Full of Spiders yet.

      [–]Hrodrik 15 points16 points  (3 children)

      Nah, a lot of people are upset, but we don't want to be shot by well armed fascists.

      [–]BrotherGildas 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Why are there not people storming ICE facilities right tf now?

      Someone tried to burn one down (allegedly) and they shot him dead.

      [–]MightywarriorEX 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This is the sad outcome I would have expected. Call it apathy, but I literally feel there is nothing I as an individual can do outside of bide my time and vote. Then pray that my vote matters and the election results aren’t contested and fought over via a civil war of sorts in our country.

      [–]S1lv3rw1nd 97 points98 points  (6 children)

      Right: The left calls everyone who disagrees with them Nazis!

      Also the right:

      [–]rawbebaba 88 points89 points  (5 children)

      We are being shamed for our political beliefs!

      They're shaming you for wanting lower taxes?

      No, not those ones

      They're shaming you for wanting smaller government?

      No, not those ones either.

      Well which ones than?

      I'd rather not say, but I don't believe those things.

      [–]ThisHandleIsBroken 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      I wish I had gold for you.

      [–]rawbebaba 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Your reply is your gold dude!

      [–]SenorBeef 30 points31 points  (1 child)

      What is happening to this country? You can't even yell ethnic slurs at Denny's anymore! Everything is racist to the looney left!

      [–]HipsterTrudy 19 points20 points  (3 children)

      The original guy is right. Hitler didn’t use the civil authorities. He completely defunded the police and instead instituted the equivalent of a secret national guard- the Gestapo. These were not local cops responsible to any municipality. He also did incite many riots and even burned down the Reichstag for political expedience. He deliberately created riots using party members and secret police to arise hatred of the Jews. He did something similar to justify invading Poland. There was no law he wouldn’t break.

      [–]LiteralCommunication 7 points8 points  (10 children)

      The connection that should actually be made is how victimization culture preceded genocide. The Jewish were hated and were pointed at as oppressors that held all the power and wealth (Jewish were often seen running storefronts for example, which were attacked on Kristallnacht (night of broken glass)).

      Eventually the scapegoating continued...and sure enough, genocide followed.

      [–]benho3 23 points24 points  (23 children)

      I've seen this shared a million times on Facebook from my Ohio relatives. Swing states see such an incredible amount of right wing propaganda and they fucking EAT IT UP! They don't care about history or facts, just as long as it doesn't challenge their inner bigot to change.

      [–]JonathanTheZeroNever got murdered | Mod 15 points16 points  (22 children)

      It's not about facts, it's about what they want to hear...

      [–]Modernsponge 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      My grandfather started saying this recently along with various other things and citing that the democrats are emulating the nazis.

      I even sent him a snopes article awhile back that cited a Holocaust foundation in debunking the rumor Hitler defunded police and now he says that Snopes has liberal fact checkers who are right maybe 50% of the time.

      He says that Facebook has all liberal fact checkers who are trying to get the democrats to win.

      Facebook has screwed us so badly

      [–]kinger200 20 points21 points  (9 children)

      You're wrong about the SA (brown shirts) working for the police Hitler didn't have control of the police at that point it was only after president Hindenburg died that Hitler was able to form his dictatorship also the SA were not around after 1934 as Hitler had their leader killed in the night of the long knives, after that the SA were amalgamated into the wehrmacht forces so no they were not vigilantes working for the police.

      [–]TestaOnFire 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      During the raise into power, Hitler didn't controll directly the SA, but the leader of the SA was a huuuuge fan of Hitler and use the SA to protect him... but the SA weren't really a police force, they were more like a militia group.

      But that leader of the SA weren't place there by Hitler, and him wanting more controll on the group, led to the night of the long dagger, with the total substitution of the SA with the SS.

      But... Police liked Hitler because he give her more power, weapon, less critisism (no free press), no street fight (Hitler ordered the complete killing of any Comunist party that were fighting back Hitler raise), being able to arrest anyone without even proof, etc... they were happy when Hitler fused the SS with the Police. The SS, the SD and the Police were the main perpretator of the Holocaust.

      [–]Hrodrik 22 points23 points  (36 children)

      These fascists still insist that antifascists are the real fascists.

      [–]Humbaba69 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      DPRK is Democratic

      [–]Hrodrik 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Caution, you'll awaken the tankies.

      [–]ScarecrowPlayboy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Source- Faithful Our Town Reader

      [–]hokagesamatobirama 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      With people like these, irony and context die together, holding hands.

      [–]dynamic_unreality 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Do people even try anymore? Its hilarious how they specifically use the phrase "defund the police", as though people actually used the exact same saying 90 years ago.

      [–]Open4NewStuff 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      And thats actually why I (German) avoid going into a political discussion with someone on my vaccations , especially in the US. The stuff people laid on me... I just drank my beer and quietly nodded...

      [–]DonutsMcKenzie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Fucking a... Seriously, how are normal people supposed to fight back against the unending stream of stupidity and lies online? We seem to be just falling deeper and deeper into a post-truth world where anybody gets to believe anything they want regardless of whether it's actually factual or not.