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[–]Calguy1 7336 points7337 points  (257 children)

I wonder how many complaints this officer has. The one who pushed the photographer into the fire:


[–]RealPutin 4383 points4384 points 2 (180 children)

Denver Police has been awful during this. The Chief went and marched with protestors, but no progress has been made on:

-The woman who attempted to run over protesters, who was identified days ago and hasn't been arrested despite DPD saying they are "looking for the driver".

-The cops who pepper-balled a pregnant lady in her own car

-The member of the Use of Force committee who resigned after cops shot her in the back with rubber bullets, just hours after meeting with the Chief

-The cop who pepper-balled a guy in the face while the cop was driving away....for literally no reason. Same unit shot at people on their own porches.

-The cop who shoved a photographer towards a literal fire

-The cop who pepper balled a Denver Post photographer

-The protestor who has two broken vertebrae in his neck and brain hemorrhaging after being hit at close range with large caliber "less than lethal" projectiles

-The protestor who needed finger surgery after getting hit with the same projectiles

Not to mention the dozens of incidents of pepper spraying, tear gassing, and rubber bulleting legitimately peaceful protesters. And whatever the fuck else wasn't caught on camera.

Makes me a wee bit suspicious that marching with protestors may been have simply been for optics.

[–]dtm85 1306 points1307 points  (83 children)

Clearly it is for optics, doesn't mean shit if you march with protesters and then 2 hours later men under your command are pulling this heinous crap. These protests are going to be going on for a long time since the police simply don't get what is happening here. If you openly protest police brutality and are met with more police brutality people are just going to protest harder. This weekend when the crowds scale up this nation is going to go absolutely bonkers.

[–]bivuki 569 points570 points  (66 children)

The police chiefs are the ones with the power to fix their departments. They don’t need to march, they are the ones in power. They are the ones who control their department, they could have changed this shit anytime they wanted to but they didn’t. Their words mean nothing, their marching means nothing.

[–]InternetAccount04 257 points258 points  (30 children)

The DPD chief is also unelected and is appointed by, and only answerable to, the mayor.

[–]RealPutin 149 points150 points  (26 children)

And the mayor of Denver has a pretty large amount of power, the City Council is relatively limited.

[–]InternetAccount04 93 points94 points  (25 children)

And the mayor of Denver is black and has a son who is, honestly, a big shit head who surprisingly hasn't been a victim of serious abuse by police. You'd think he'd care more about police brutality.

[–]Schonke 77 points78 points  (16 children)

The Daily had a great episode about the various ways police are protected and why it's incredibly hard for chief of police to fix a broken system even when they want to.

[–]Tknoff 44 points45 points  (14 children)

I was just about to reply that. Super good recap. Police unions and their subsequent contracts are practically insurmountable obstacles as it stands rn. Pod Save America had a good segment the other day talking about some policy changes that unfortunately seem to be the only things materially impactful. The project.

[–]camwow13 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Just listened to that daily episode. Made me realize the problem is a ton more complex than a lot of the social media stuff has made it seem. The police chief in Minneapolis literally was a guy who sued the department and was appointed by a mayor who is only one in a long series of mayor's who have been trying to fix the system and have met nothing but brick walls.

[–]gfulm 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Sadly it takes more than the police chief to make change. There are lots of 'reformers' in places of power, but there are many systems in place to protect police officerts that are run by corrupt people. Listen to Tuesday's episode of The Daily podcast about the systems in place to protect police officers.

[–]robotatomica 156 points157 points  (6 children)

[–]TheNr24 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Why use github for this?

[–]bakergo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Github is likely being used because Git repos are free, open-source, easily mirrorable and nearly impossible to change without someone noticing. If Github attempts to shut down the videos then it's pretty easy for others to have copies and move them to other sites, or host the repos themselves.

[–]3DPrintedCloneOfMyse 37 points38 points  (2 children)

What, the same Denver PD whose union made these shirts after a protest in 2008?

The sad truth is that the behavior we're seeing from police departments had been quietly condoned for forever. Imagine being so sure you were immune from punishment that you'd make a commemorative police brutality T-shirt.

Ironically I've felt hopeless about this for the past 12 years. I watched the St. Paul PD called in a fake hostage call to themselves to break down the door of the police accountability group operating during the 2008 RNC protests. They 100% got away with it, no repercussions. Seeing public opinion shift from, "That didn't happen and if it did you deserved it," to "There's a legitimate problem here," has actually given me a lot of hope.

[–]dragon50305 107 points108 points  (12 children)

Yeah when I was at the protests they had a car roll up and start shooting into the crowd with pepper balls when nothing violent was happening. It happened twice. Literally just a crowd standing around and with absolutely no warning they fired into the crowd twice.

[–]BuddyUpInATree 38 points39 points  (6 children)

I saw a video of them shooting at a car doing nothing wrong that had a pregnant woman inside

[–]TaroPeril 30 points31 points  (3 children)

The Denver Police Department is having a town hall TODAY from 6 - 7 PM MT


If you're comfortable, you should join the meeting and tell them about this.

[–]ElectronF 40 points41 points  (2 children)

People also need to demand large print badge numbers on the front and back of every officer. As long as they are anonymous, they are empowered to harm and kill.

[–]blendedfarley 74 points75 points  (6 children)

-The woman who attempted to run over protesters, who was identified days ago and hasn't been arrested despite DPD saying they are "looking for the driver".

Wow I love how USA Today has edited the clip to make it less obvious that she had a clear path out but decided to turn and chase people.

On different posts in reddit many people were acting like this was justified. They were saying she felt her life was in danger. Those comments were well received.

She turned 90 degrees to chase someone with her car

[–]The_Northern_Light 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Don't call them less than lethal.

The actual term is less lethal.

They can absolutely kill you. They know this, and they're still aiming for your face.

[–]DylanMartin97 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Those rubber bullets aren't just rubber, that's what people are really failing to understand.

Rubber bullets is still a metal bullet in-cased into a thin layer of rubber, it's meant to be shot at the ground and ricochet at the victims legs and feet from 100's of yards away to immobilize them. These people are being shot with very serious, very deadly weapons from 30 ish yards away.

That's why people are out here losing eyes, and getting hit so hard its giving them concussions, shit is incredibly dangerous.

[–]escargotisntfastfood 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I live in Denver. I'm white and live in a relatively affluent area (the old airport).

I've had a car broken into and stuff stolen, bicycles stolen on two different occasions, and seen junkies injecting something just across the street from my house.

But I refuse to call Denver PD. I don't trust them. There's an infinitesimal chance of getting my stuff back, and a very real chance of a bad encounter ending in real pain for an innocent person.

It sucks to say that, but all those incidents were well before the George Floyd protests.

Personal and property safety for me and my family are on me, and I'm learning to do better.

[–]cat_prophecy 74 points75 points  (3 children)

The Chief went and marched with protesters, but no progress has been made on:

Because it's window dressing and nothing more. The only reason a cop isn't beating your face when you look at them in a way they don't like in is because currently that is not the easiest course of action. If it's easier to fuck up your day, and they think they can get away with it, they will.

Police are like water: always going to to lowest point through the path of least resistance.

[–]caribeno 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I can sum it up more succinctly than that, it is psychological warfare. it is also an attempt to rock the people to sleep, a deceptive pacification tool.

[–]redpandaeater 21 points22 points  (2 children)

That's some good attempted murder charges.

[–]jacqueshammer1 227 points228 points  (10 children)

It must be nice to have a president who encourages this behaviour.

[–]GonzaloR87 85 points86 points  (5 children)

I’m a disease investigator and I sure as hell don’t feel supported by the president

[–]JoeyTheGreek 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Have you tried fighting infections with tear gas?

[–]turbotank183 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Don't be ridiculous...you really need to drink some bleach instead

[–]ChrisPnCrunchy 17.0k points17.0k points  (1248 children)

71 complaints and he still gets to keep his job lol

Literally no other job would put up with even 10% as many complaints before they fired somebody.


[–]Thunder-ten-tronckh 9306 points9307 points  (762 children)

You forgot the juiciest part:

The guy had 71 complaints uses of force and drew his weapon 51 times in

wait for it

4 years!

[–]ChrisPnCrunchy 4242 points4243 points  (517 children)

drew his weapon 51 times... in just 4 years

No doubt that guy so desperately wants to shoot somebody.

I'd love to compare that 51 against the number of times he's drawn his less-than-lethals such as his taser or mace; I bet his gun is his go-to 99% of the time.

[–]realSatanAMA 1941 points1942 points  (144 children)

I bet he says "just give me a reason" a lot

[–]rdrast 592 points593 points  (134 children)

Nah, he goes back to Eastwood's "Make my day, punk"

[–]Sedu 47 points48 points  (5 children)

Seems like his day is finally being made. I hope he’s destroyed by the system.

[–]XvowelcoreX 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Fat chance. The video says his supervisors say he's positive and self-motivated. Furthermore, it says that he needs a little to no supervision, and is even a role model to others... What the fuck?

[–]Emale0 100 points101 points  (6 children)

probably pulls it out so much the button for the holster barely snaps in place anymore..

[–]Sublime_Eimar 83 points84 points  (2 children)

If you pull it more than three times, you're masturbating.

[–][deleted] 314 points315 points  (157 children)

If you’re doing your job right most cops shouldn’t draw their weapons more than a handful of times in their entire career. Absolutely disgusting

[–]xudoxis 246 points247 points  (14 children)

once a month. Have we confirmed he isn't a werewolf?

[–]SoDakZak 138 points139 points  (9 children)

Werewolves don’t draw guns. To my knowledge they aren’t very artistic.

[–]MagikSkyDaddy 18 points19 points  (1 child)

They’re just being smart and only releasing a few pieces per decade. Can’t flood the market with good werewolf art and crash the prices.

[–]Bone_Dice_in_Aspic 123 points124 points  (9 children)

Man. Chauvin killed someone and he had 18... In 19 years. People acted like that was a lot.

Edit: that's complaints, not uses of force. Wrong category to compare sorry.

[–]publicface11 22 points23 points  (6 children)

I was curious so I asked a state trooper about what he would think was reasonable. He said he personally has reported only two use of forces in almost five years (though what they are required to report varies by agency), and he wasn’t sure about how often he’d drawn his weapon but it was definitely less than ten times.

[–]Hubblesphere 70 points71 points  (9 children)

In each case, he was not found to be in violation of department policy.

Nothing to see here.

[–]jgandfeed 269 points270 points  (52 children)

he's obviously a problem but it's 71 uses of force, not 71 complaints. We don't know how many complaints there were or what is even considered use of force by that department.

Drawing your gun that often is nuts.

[–]Gobblewicket 108 points109 points  (38 children)

Especially as it was only 4 years. Thats almost 18 times a year. One snd a half times a month this guy has to use force. He also drew his weapon 51 times. So again once once a month this guy draws down on someone. Thats ridiculous.

[–]Thunder-ten-tronckh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good catch. Fixed.

[–]Mediocretes1 130 points131 points  (5 children)

drew his weapon 51 times

John Wick thinks that's excessive.

[–]JanMichaelVincent16 52 points53 points  (2 children)

Well, that’s because John Wick has trigger discipline and only draws his weapon if he intends to kill.

[–]indyK1ng 31 points32 points  (1 child)

And is usually very polite. John Wick is more trusted than the police.

[–]buy_iphone_7 23 points24 points  (5 children)

That's more than once a month.

That means he likely drew his weapon at least once in May. At least once in April. At least once in March.

[–]JoshuaS904 22 points23 points  (6 children)

I wonder how many countries have lower stats, for their entire police force, than this one cop?

[–]somegurk 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This is gonna blow your mind but there is countries where the closest thing to a weapon most cops have is a largish flashlight.

[–]joshandhisnikon 687 points688 points  (162 children)

I can’t wait until someone comes into this to try to defend him.

Fuck this guy he is a criminal abusive thug in uniform.

[–]Octodab 556 points557 points  (113 children)

What about his coworkers who chose not to speak up? They are criminals as well is the answer. Spineless criminals who will happily tear gas peaceful protestors, but will not speak up about coworkers who have a free pass to brutalize unarmed civilians. Pathetic

[–]ChrisPnCrunchy 462 points463 points  (71 children)

This post from a couple days ago is the perfect example of why there are no good cops, only bad cops and cops who are indifferent to the bad cops:

News Chopper Pans Out As Riverside County Sheriff Smashes Parked Car Window For No Reason At Peaceful BLM Protest

In the above video, a cop vandalizes a parked car for no reason while literally surrounded by ~50 other cops and not one cop attempts to stop him or arrests him afterwards.

[–]CleatusVandamn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

How many complaints do you think his coworkers have?

[–]ohbenito 12 points13 points  (0 children)

the same way i can be found guilty of criminal conspiracy if my partner does something illegal that i profit off of, the cops must be held accountable as well.

[–]Roving_Rhythmatist 103 points104 points  (7 children)

In his defence, at 100 complaints he gets a really nice watch and one free pick from the evidence room.

[–]StrawberryK 132 points133 points  (12 children)

Got my ass beat by a cop a few years ago for "resisting" and by resisting I mean he ran up tackled me from behind while I was talking to another officer about an incident nearby (fight at a new years party) that was nearby. I was walking home from a different party at like 2 am. He put his knee into my back and when I had an arm pinned under me because his weight he yelled stop resisting and I yelled I'm not resisting you fucking idiot I can't get my arm out from under me. Then he gave me 4 or 5 right hooks to the face., when we got to the station I said what's your badge # etc and he told me it's not like it'll do you any good. I told him that's fine I just want the badge number so everyone knows you hit like a bitch then he slammed me face first into a wall.

everything proceeded me going to court etc. Until my lawyer showed me a stack of his use of force files. They ended up dropping that case but not until I was like $3000 into fines and stuff.

He later pulled a woman from her car after she drove into a river and was called hero.

Now earlier this year there's video evidence of him and a partner beating and pepper spraying a 17(?) Yr old kid. Dont know what's happened since.

[–]SpencersBeard 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I wonder if societal shaming would work on these pieces of shit.

[–]LovelyTechno 18 points19 points  (0 children)

These guys are primitive, overly aggressive idiots, they're not capable of complex, self aware emotions like feeling shame

[–]anthropicprincipal 368 points369 points  (25 children)

Our city was forced to hire back a police officer who is a Nazi.

Thanks police unions! Imagine that happening in Europe.

[–][deleted] 144 points145 points  (12 children)

You nailed it! And I'm glad I'm not the only one pointing this out. You want to know why all these cops get away this shit, LOOK TO THE POLICE UNIONS!

[–]Fuck_divisiveness 137 points138 points  (7 children)

The cops vote for their Union leadership.

Time after time, they vote for the candidates that say they will fight as hard as possible for any cop regardless of situation.

They could just as easily vote in union leaders that want to clean house so the good cops that are left are better off.

Just because the current unions are bad doesnt mean unions are bad.

It just means the people voting for their leaders arent really interested in justice.

[–]Ehcksit 86 points87 points  (3 children)

Police unions are bad because the police in them are bad and vote for bad leadership. The mayors and governors and legislators never stand up to them the way corporations stand up to those unions.

The problem is still the police, not unionization.

[–]falgscforever2117 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It's not even a union, it's "The Fraternal Order of Police". It's not affiliated with any unions with the AFL-CIO. It doesn't stand in solidarity with other organized labor (in fact the police have a long history of breaking strikes and antagonizing organized labor). The police have a goddamn frat protecting them.

[–]Any_Opposite 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Thanks police unions!

Thank our elected politicians that "negotiate" and sign the union contract guaranteeing those protections.

[–]Vylnce 78 points79 points  (7 children)

They didn't say complaints, they said use of force cases.

I'm not disagreeing he may be a dirt bag, but some departments require use of force reports for anything other than talking to people.

" Fort Lauderdale police spokeswoman Casey Liening told Local 10 News reporter Roy Ramos that Internal Affairs automatically looks into a case when an officer notes in their report that use of force was required regardless of whether a complaint was made. "

Over a four year career, that might be having to tackle someone every three weeks.

Again, I don't know anything about the officer (or incident really) but complaint stats or use of force averages for the department might be more tellling.

[–]brownnoseblueschnaz 60 points61 points  (1 child)

You missed the craziest part. He’s only been a cop for 4 YEARS

[–]Octodab 2877 points2878 points  (199 children)

Somebody defend all the good apple cops who kept quiet about these allegations, I'll wait.

[–]Ody_Mandrell 423 points424 points  (43 children)

The blue lives matter founders* are literally all under investigation for excessive force.


Joseph V. Imperatrice

Jonathan P. Burke

Spencer W. Garrett

[–]Rosh_Posh 58 points59 points  (37 children)

Blue lives matter is an organization?

[–]Ody_Mandrell 89 points90 points  (36 children)

Yes it is. I could be wrong I believe it was formed after the death of Michael brown. 2 cops got killed as retaliation and they made a group to directly combat Black lives matter. They actually have a centralized hierarchy. So we can easily label them a terrorist organization.

[–]blarghable 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Blue Lives Matter and Thin Blue Lives and all that is a pretty good way of figuring out if someone is a fascist.

[–][deleted] 636 points637 points  (40 children)

I'll wait with you. Might as well enjoy the view of cities being burnt to the ground because of this BS while we wait. Then they ask, why you rioting? Well. . .

[–]Tico483 330 points331 points  (33 children)

Well at least we have cute Police Doggos. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Copaganda is gonna happen after this

[–]Pmmesmallboobz 232 points233 points  (23 children)

Trained to fucking maim you.

I'm disgusted by the use of dogs as soldiers. They let the dog continue biting you after it catches you. That's its reward. I get drug sniffing but anything else seems cruel

[–]third-time-charmed 132 points133 points  (10 children)

Drug sniffing isn't even effective. It's been shown that the dogs mostly respond to cues from handlers

[–]elusions_michael 70 points71 points  (5 children)

I thought that was the point. The handler signals to the dog that they want to search someone so the dog signals "drugs". It's an excuse to search someone that holds up in court for some reason.

[–]jimjacksonsjamboree 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It holds up in court because police swear it works and courts only listen to police

[–]The_Follower1 51 points52 points  (3 children)

Happens every time there's incidents like this. Some video emerges about a cop doing horrible shit and within a day there just so happens to be a viral photo of a police officer dancing with people or having a cute doggo.

[–]alongfield 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My social media feed has been a mixture of maybe 10% personal posts, 20% excuses for police brutality, 20% oh noes look at our thin blue line heroes, and 50% people speaking out against police.

40% supporting the police, every day, for the entire protest. And that's after pruning the militant Trump worshiper family/former friends out finally.

Copaganda the whole time. And then after, you know they're going to try to do parades in honor of these murders that picked fights they didn't win finally. Then there's going to be a lot of totally not racially motivated retaliation against areas and identified people from these protests.

That's why we need to keep going until the blue stripe gang is purged and rebuilt.

[–]Niaso 30 points31 points  (0 children)

"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." - Thomas Mann

[–]UnusuallyOptimistic 220 points221 points  (12 children)

Good cops become former cops. You can't fight a corrupt and unionized system from within. You need regulation and consequences at the very least.

[–]Ergheis 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Target the higher ups and the politicians in control of things.

When you fight the zombies, you aim for the source. You don't cry about how unfair the zombies are.

[–]conquer69 82 points83 points  (6 children)

Here is what the good cops say to each other when they think no one else is listening https://v.redd.it/iang7vyd6l251

[–]VeteranKamikaze 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Not "Don't say that." Not "Dude, you know I have to report you just for saying that, why are you putting me in that position." Just "Don't say that over the air." Just "Only talk about murdering innocent civilians in the locker room when it's just us ok?"

[–]Squalor- 31 points32 points  (2 children)

They can’t because, as the proverb states, the good apples got spoiled staying around the bad ones.

[–]patiencesp 6 points7 points  (0 children)

a use of force report is filed any time escalation of force occurs. you have to have these, at least at my old security department. this title is kind of misleading, there needs to be more information

[–]30DaysFromNow 358 points359 points  (25 children)

I wonder who has the highest 'use of force' cases against them, on file.

That could be interesting to see which are the most corrupt areas

[–]Dracula28 113 points114 points  (6 children)

Are they competing for first place?

[–]seang239 815 points816 points  (72 children)

Qualified immunity is why officials in the US aren’t personally held accountable to their victims for violating their rights.

Sign the petition going to the Senate (every senators office), House of Representatives (every single one of their offices) and to the Supreme Court to end qualified immunity:

End Qualified Immunity

** Share this so people will understand why officials have very little accountability to their victims for their actions. Sign the petition! *\*

[–]freeing_cryman 279 points280 points 2 (8 children)

Justin Amash is introducing a bill calling for end of qualified immunity. Sure, sign a petition, but also call your congressperson asking to support this.


EDIT: List of co-sponsors: https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1268575974075043840

[–]deejbee 82 points83 points  (5 children)

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[–]prailock 276 points277 points  (31 children)

Change.org is not how cases go up to the Supreme Court. This is a nice gesture but absolutely nothing will come of this. Efforts should be put into actual things that can bring change.

[–]theThirdShake 184 points185 points  (6 children)

Not true. It resulted in the Game of thrones season 8 remake ordered by the Supreme Court.

[–]spicedpumpkins 172 points173 points  (13 children)


If you want to be serious about PERMANENTLY removing bad cops then you have to take down the CORRUPT POLICE UNIONS that are really just paramilitary organized crime charading as collective bargaining units who protect these bad apples and who don't want to let go of their monopoly on unaccountable violence.

Targeting police unions that have a long documented history of getting corrupt cops simply reassigned to new areas, getting their jobs back in the same area, early retirement on the backs of the taxpayers is just the start. There are OF COURSE other things needed

And you can add to that list removing qualified immunity for every cop and INVESTIGATING and CHARGING corrupt complicit District Attorneys that fail to charge corrupt officers.

The list goes on...

[–]Poopbutt_Maximum 531 points532 points  (42 children)

Imagine 71 complaints against a teacher, surgeon, or mechanic. Would anyone else besides a cop be able to keep their job?

(That’s a rhetorical question, we all know the answer to that.)

[–]xaghant 180 points181 points  (19 children)

It's not 71 complaints. It's 71 reported case of use of force, 51 of which were situations where he drawed his weapon.

[–]TreePretty 170 points171 points  (7 children)

As someone noted above - a priest.

[–]404_UserNotFound 80 points81 points  (3 children)

A priest, a DA, judge, head of the FCC, basically any uppermanagement of a bank....

[–]TreePretty 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Oh right! CEOs regularly lose millions of dollars and all they get as punishment are huge bonuses.

[–]its_just_a_meme_bro 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Listen, the CEO tried desperately to remove employee's benefits and move the factory to China. He did everything he could.

[–]PM_SWEATY_NIPS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I thought you were starting a 'walk into a bar' joke

[–]BoredCop 294 points295 points  (51 children)

So, not sure if I should say anything since police work is clearly very different in the US....

Norwegian cop of 14 years experience here.

While you expect to rack up some groundless complaints, from people who think they can somehow get revenge for getting lawfully arrested, 71 seems way too excessive for that. And that's just for alledgedly unjustified use of force, not for other questionable conduct?

In my entire career so far I've only ever had one single formal complaint against me. By an absolute Karen, who thought the "pedestrians only after 2200 hours" didn't apply to her and who objected to my writing her a ticket. "I'll write to your manager" doesn't get you out of paying for traffic offenses, lady.

I've never drawn a gun on anyone, though we rarely carry guns at all so that hardly counts. Always carry a baton and pepper spray, I've drawn the baton a handful of times but never hit anyone. Need a new can of pepper spray, still carrying a decade-old expired one because never used.

Drawing a gun more than once per month? He's either working in an active war zone or is an absolute psycho. I've worked as a peacekeeper in then-freshly wartorn former Yugoslavia, only once had to aim my rifle at someone and that was at a "friendly" officer who thought the rules didn't apply to him at the main gate of the HQ. No, you cannot drive through without stopping because that makes you look like a suicide bomber... Just aiming and racking the bolt made his driver stomp on the brakes, no shots fired. If I can go six months in that environment without firing a shot and with only pointing a gun at someone once, how come this guy has to draw his gun every damned month in his own country in peacetime?

[–]NinjaPenguinGuy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

That's not alleged unnecessary use of force, that's use of force total

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_KATARINA 22 points23 points  (3 children)

It’s 71 uses of force on file , not 71 complaints

[–]lostinthestar 16 points17 points  (10 children)


These are instances of "use of force" and in this case drawing weapon 51 times. If you've ever seen on TV, cops standing with guns drawn by their car as they ask the driver to exit the vehicle and come to them with hands up to be handcuffed, and so on.

Ft Lauderdale is not the worst city in USA for violent crime but it's still like 2X the national average, i think it's in the bottom 5% of all cities for safety. It also features a tremendous number of huge "parties" which is crowds of many thousands college students drunk out of their minds fighting and fucking shit up.

[–]UnableComb 114 points115 points  (9 children)

There's a lot of people misinterpreting this as use of force complaints. These are cases.

Fort Lauderdale police spokeswoman Casey Liening told Local 10 News reporter Roy Ramos that Internal Affairs automatically looks into a case when an officer notes in their report that use of force was required regardless of whether a complaint was made.

Here are the actual complaints:

His personnel file shows an allegation of unnecessary force and false arrest was made, and in another report, a man accused Pohorence of racially profiling him during a traffic stop.

Not defending him, just figured it was worth clarifying since not everyone reads the articles.

Also, nice to see in the video that at least the other officers were ripping him a new asshole the second he did it. Hopefully they direct that anger toward removing him.

[–]bytelines 20 points21 points  (1 child)

These aren't complaints, these are automatically generated by internal affairs anytime force is used:

> Fort Lauderdale police spokeswoman Casey Liening told Local 10 News reporter Roy Ramos that Internal Affairs automatically looks into a case when an officer notes in their report that use of force was required regardless of whether a complaint was made.

Does anyone have math on whether this is an excessive amounts?

[–]strosscom99 107 points108 points  (20 children)

He's drawn his weapon 51 times in 4 years.

And they wonder why people are pissed off.

Fuck them.