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[–]Roast5y 16.3k points16.3k points  (510 children)

I think the bald officer knew straight away, he had a good look at the computer.

[–]Reselects420 7634 points7635 points  (61 children)

“The bomb has been defused. Counter-terrorists win.”

[–][deleted] 2896 points2897 points  (51 children)

"Bomb has been planted."

HE'S GOT A BOMB!!!

[–]Warrrdy 1223 points1224 points  (24 children)

Imagine that’s what gets you killed 😭

[–]dreadlike 407 points408 points  (8 children)

I suppose we hear the ingame sounds because he is streaming those aswell, you might hear them irl from his headphones but those cops prob make too much noise

[–]Un111KnoWn 98 points99 points  (3 children)

no way the game is that loud unless he has open back headphones.

[–]Da_Boom 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Even then, if it's coming through open backs it won't sound very loud even if he has it set to "I'm partially deaf" levels. It will just sound like someone's phone speaker from far away.

[–]SlightlyDevious 93 points94 points  (0 children)

Counter streamers win.

[–]Work_Sucks1 1874 points1875 points  (295 children)

Walk into a room with a guy sitting at a computer with his hands up

"Put your hands up!!!!!!"

[–]peekay427 1118 points1119 points  (260 children)

Must be really easy to comply too when you have five people assuming assault weapons at you and telling different orders.

Edit: uhhh aiming not assuming but that kinda works if you squint

[–]Work_Sucks1 1457 points1458 points  (212 children)

They just yell indiscriminately until their adrenaline starts to cool.

It should be illegal to yell contradicting orders at gun point.

[–]ssl-3 1205 points1206 points  (148 children)

Remember Daniel Shaver.

edited: Added link to fatal Simon Says execution of Daniel Shaver. NSFL. Remember this.

[–]james_d_rustles 1556 points1557 points  (122 children)

That case was truly one of the most sickening incidents of police violence I’ve ever seen, from the shooting to officer Philip Brailsford’s subsequent retirement, start to finish.

After the court case was over, the officer with “you’re fucked” inscribed on the side of his gun was immediately rehired without any duties, guaranteed monthly pension payments for the rest of his life.

Absolutely fucking disgusting, every officer there that night should be rotting in prison. Cold blooded murder, intentional degradation/humiliation moments before his murder at the hands of the police, all on video for everyone to witness. Just reading the name “Daniel Shaver” and being reminded of that incident fills me with anger.

[–]No_Program_Found_950 404 points405 points  (16 children)

It’s worse than that. He wasn’t rehired, he was reinstated (important distinction), which allowed him to apply for and collect accidental disability for his “ptsd” after murdering an innocent man.

Meaning this fuckface is on ALREADY on medical disability retirement receiving his full pension from MY GOD DAMN TAX DOLLARS AS A CITIZEN OF MESA, AZ. Oh, and he requested (and the city complied) to keep the rifle he used to murder Daniel Shaver. Imagine that, having such extreme PTSD from murdering someone that you get to retire for life on it, and your retirement present being the rifle you used to execute him.

[–]Chasedabigbase 112 points113 points  (4 children)

$2,569.21 monthly pension checks for life

[–]w00timan 62 points63 points  (0 children)

That guy won the lottery, fucking disgusting.

"You've murdered a man, bad cop, now have 30k a year, without working a job, and think about what you've done wrong" smfh

[–]Thedaggerinthedark 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Plus the ability to be rehired abd keep the pension checks flowing. It's sickening that cop isn't executed. Ptsd is real, but if you are the aggressor and sole instigator you do not get the same treatment as the person on the other side of the weapon

[–]Interesting-Dog-1224 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Sounds like that cop wanted to keep his rifle as a trophy.

[–]IAmJersh 324 points325 points  (33 children)

The "you're fucked" cop needs to be assigned to sock cooking duty in the depths of hell

[–]matt_Dan 58 points59 points  (29 children)

Sock cooking or cock sucking?

[–]Schindog 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Sock cooking could be pretty stinky, to be fair

[–]Joe-MaMa5 71 points72 points  (5 children)

Was that where the policeman told him to have his hands up, to crawl towards him and not bend his arms

[–]ssl-3 64 points65 points  (3 children)

Yes, this was that particular example of a lethal game of Simon Says.

[–]Joe-MaMa5 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Yeah that was completely disgusting and downright evil, never should’ve happened

[–]WhyIsThatOnMyCat 240 points241 points  (5 children)

Daniel Shaver did everything that the weaklings screamed

and Philip Brailsford murdered him to save the power dream

Charles Langley gave the order that they murder Shaver

Now we're paying both their pensions acting like it's braver

Brailsford had a history of beating up teenagers

A Punisher skull on his gun a swastika comes later

But none of this was even entered in his murder trial

So a jury let him off scot-free, boot licking in style

Hey, Daloy Polizei, means the same thing now as yesterday

Out of our houses, into the streets

Everybody say "Fuck the police!"

https://youtu.be/gX0y254lOu0?t=112

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    [–]ssl-3 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    It all pisses me off.

    It is also important to remember that being drunk in a hotel room is not a crime, even if you do have a pellet gun in that room.

    [–]Sadatori 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    No cops have publicly campaigned against that kind of police action, meaning all cops are bad. Well, one of many reasons ACAB is undeniable

    [–]CowJuiceDisplayer 213 points214 points  (12 children)

    A serious policy needs to be created at all police agencies, having each one establish a chain of command before arriving to a critical situation. Only the highest ranking officer on that chain may give orders to the suspect when in the direct area. That officer says hands to the left, and everyone else say hand to the right, everyone else should be disciplined as though they failed to follow their highest ranking officers order.

    [–]rub_a_dub-dub 123 points124 points  (2 children)

    yea that would make sense but fuck you, fuck the public, and fuck everyone, give the police more funds and protection from accountability

    this message brought to you by the DA, the judges, the politicians, and the police unions

    [–]njb2017 43 points44 points  (1 child)

    came to say the same thing. having everyone yelling orders, potentially contradicting orders, is a sure way to make a controllable situation turn into a shitshow

    [–]greenbabyshit 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    You want military equipment? Adhere to the same basic philosophy of the military. I never made it past e-4, which means I know damn well someone in this scenario probably outranks me, and I should shut the fuck up.

    [–]FLAwSIN36 31 points32 points  (17 children)

    Sounds like a Mel Brooks plot.

    [–]Ch1Guy 126 points127 points  (14 children)

    It does, and still realife....

    Ever hear about the cop that murdered an unarmed man in a hotel hallway

    The cop who etched "your fucked" on the murder weapon.

    The guy was unarmed on his knees begging the cop to not execute him....

    The cop was playing "Simon says" just waiting for the suspect to make a mistake ..

    Then the cop shot him 5 times and killed the unarmed guy...

    Look up Daniel Shaver.

    [–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (4 children)

    Worst part?

    "...was temporarily rehired by his department last year so he could apply for an accidental disability pension.

    Philip Mitchell Brailsford, 28, is now retired from the force with a tax-free pension worth $31,000 a year for life — and his attorney confirmed Friday that the settlement was a result of him suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder due to the shooting involving Daniel Shaver of Texas."

    [–]LeSeanMcoy 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    "I murdered a person and now I feel sad. taxpayers pay me money for the rest of my life :("

    like wtf lol. dude shouldn't be walking in public without rocks being tossed at him and his family.

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      [–]DougieWR 32 points33 points  (0 children)

      Showing the video of the murder from the killers point of view with audio does tend to be devastating to the defense

      [–]kayama57 20 points21 points  (0 children)

      But how will they be able to find nothing wrong in their investigations that way?

      [–]WimbletonButt 115 points116 points  (13 children)

      This happened to me once. A entire crowd of them all yelling different shit "don't move, get on the ground, hands up" and in the moment that my brain tried to sort which command to follow, I almost got tazed. If my dad hadn't gone outside with them after they showed up (he called, it was dark, he thought I was the neighbor stealing shit) and started yelling that I was his kid, don't shoot, I was gonna get tazed. Like the cop straight of told me he was in the process of pulling that trigger. You'd think they could all come up with one command to yell to decrease confusion.

      [–]peekay427 116 points117 points  (7 children)

      Their training doesn’t cover “how to deescalate and get suspects to calmly comply with simple orders”?!?!

      [–]Umbrias 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      No of course not. Not enough room in the budget after buying up all the military surplus. What do you think they are, social workers? Also sorry not enough room in the budget for social workers, they just bought some .50 bmg rated armored cars with sonic less lethal weapons on top. Their hands are tied.

      [–]BlindBeard 111 points112 points  (0 children)

      Their what?

      [–]PerryRubay4 155 points156 points  (9 children)

      I think you mean...Five members of a government sanctioned street-gang empowered with the exclusive right of lethal force with qualified immunity and effective impunity...all yelling different things at the same time.

      Comply or die.

      [–]Popheal 111 points112 points  (13 children)

      how the fuck can anyone even hear what they're screaming? they all yell different things at the same time.

      [–]jussikol 75 points76 points  (10 children)

      That's the idea. Can't comply if you can't understand and it's a free kill.

      [–]TheSpaceGinger 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      I heard, "Put your hands on the ground in the air lay down up and to the side cross your eyes and touch your ears up on the ground air hands!"

      Great job communicating. It's no wonder these professionals never have any issues.

      [–]Shiftlock0 84 points85 points  (2 children)

      I once had two FBI agents pointing guns at me while one was yelling "PUT YOUR HANDS UP!" while the other was yelling "DON'T MOVE!" Quite a confusing situation for an 18-year-old in his underwear to wake up to at 6:00 a.m.

      [–]sdforbda 1043 points1044 points  (55 children)

      Yep, right before he decided that he didn't want to be on camera.

      [–]Infinite-Sleep3527 705 points706 points  (43 children)

      This is a really really old video. One of the first SWATS on video IIRC. Bald cop probably had no idea, SWATing wasn’t nearly as prevalent or known about back then.

      Nowadays yeah, cops even go through training for it. But back then, no way he had any idea.

      [–]cumquistador6969 97 points98 points  (3 children)

      To be fair, back then I think it would be reasonable to have a pretty good idea the instant you walked into the room and literally nothing matched up with the report you got.

      [–]sinz84 209 points210 points  (5 children)

      That was a 'do you think that camera just recorded me stomping his back when he was already restrained' look.

      [–]sl0play 50 points51 points  (0 children)

      And then threatening him and calling him boy with a rifle pointed at his head. Yea. I can't believe this guy actually told the cops they were on live video and instructed them how to turn it off.

      [–]DesignerAd2062 48 points49 points  (0 children)

      “Are ya winning son?”

      [–]Lochlan_O-Faolain 2648 points2649 points  (94 children)

      disgusting vile people did this to him.... This shit is not a joke, its not funny, someone could die because mistakes happen.....a prank is supposed to be harmless... like a stupid singing telegram they're not meant to hurt people.

      [–]ExistentialTenant 157 points158 points  (3 children)

      More than 'could' -- People have died already. One such case is Andrew Finch and another is Mark Herring.

      Swatting is something that combines some of the worst elements of American society. Scumbags who does things without realizing (or caring) about the consequences of their actions and overzealous police who is not properly held accountable for their actions.

      [–]opticalshadow 1081 points1082 points  (24 children)

      People have died because of this.

      [–]Financial-Ad7500 56 points57 points  (4 children)

      If someone is caught swatting they should be charged with attempted murder.

      [–]rockycopter 5787 points5788 points  (200 children)

      Poor kootra. I remember watching this live

      [–]Captainsicum 2250 points2251 points  (153 children)

      What happened did they just ferry him off??? Or did they chat and discuss the situation

      [–]A2jcool 3122 points3123 points  (133 children)

      If memory serves correctly they went through and checked all the prop weapons they had to confirm nothing was real. Nobody was arrested.

      [–]LtSoundwave 2485 points2486 points  (70 children)

      “Sorry for stepping on your back like that. You know how it is.“

      [–]PokeyHokie 666 points667 points  (31 children)

      "In this day and age..."

      [–]EtherealSpirit 659 points660 points  (25 children)

      He literally stomped on his back. Cops love to hurt people

      [–]f4porno 185 points186 points  (3 children)

      Fuck the police, they were so aggressive all around even after they had him detained. Kicking his feet further apart and shit. Fucking pigs

      [–]ThePeskyWabbit 493 points494 points  (52 children)

      yeah but like so fucking what if they WERE real? its not a crime to own a gun.

      [–]ApolloXLII 273 points274 points  (7 children)

      True but at that moment it was the simplest and fastest way to dispel any validity that he was going to shoot anyone.

      [–]SaintPoost 477 points478 points  (26 children)

      Holy shit that's a fucking throwback.

      Many good memories from Kootra. Rocking that Future War Cult Destiny shirt I see.

      Miss The Creatures. That and Cowchop are very good memories for me. What a bunch.

      [–]AriTBG 114 points115 points  (21 children)

      Seamus was always my favorite... But he's never around anymore sadly

      [–]mysteryman447 71 points72 points  (15 children)

      he came back for a while but he hasnt uploaded in months, I’ve always been more of a nova guy but most of their earlier LP’s were together so

      [–]RedL45 53 points54 points  (7 children)

      Nova and Sp00n videos were my jam back then. I still check them out occasionally.

      [–]mysteryman447 16 points17 points  (2 children)

      fuckin love sp00n, I started watching nova right around the time he was doing custom maps in minecraft with seamus and sp00n, crazy to think how long ago that was lol

      [–]horrordj 5595 points5596 points  (223 children)

      With all of them screaming at him a different order, how is one going to comply? Set on the ground, show me your hands, hey your hands up, hand behind your back…

      [–]cinnamonrain 3192 points3193 points  (115 children)

      Reminds me of that guy in the hotel. Dont recall the exact story but the gist was similar. Multiple officers giving opposing commands end up killing him

      Edit: context, see shooting section

      [–]The_Lord_Humongous 456 points457 points  (15 children)

      That fucking cop played an impossible game of Simon says because he wanted to shoot somebody that night.

      Edit: I have been informed that the killer cop and the cop playing Simon says are not the same. Huh. I thought they were.

      [–]FlatulentWallaby 286 points287 points  (8 children)

      What makes you say that? Was it the "You're fucked" engraved on his gun?

      [–]Swimwithamermaid 212 points213 points  (4 children)

      Or was it his dad rehiring him for a day so he could collect his pension? Or was it that Mesa PD allowed him to write that gun off on his taxes? You know, the same gun he not only killed someone with, but was also bought by taxpayers.

      [–]Toodlez 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Dont forget not showing the footage in court because it would bias the jury!

      [–]kylegetsspam 130 points131 points  (0 children)

      He also claimed PTSD from committing murder to get even more money. ACAB.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      It's worth noting that the cop giving the orders was not the same cop that shot Daniel Shaver. There were 5-6 cops in the hallway at the time of the shooting and the one who killed Dan was the only one to shoot. Which honestly makes it even worse to me since none of the other cops felt the need to open fire. That one cop clearly wanted to kill him.

      [–]Blarggotron 1421 points1422 points  (49 children)

      Daniel Shaver

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        [–]andygarciascuzin 704 points705 points  (21 children)

        I truly... TRULY hope that he actually has ptsd and that it haunts him to his last day. But i doubt that's actually true. Fucking pig

        [–]RandoTron0 272 points273 points  (12 children)

        He’s living it up in Mexico with a pension last I heard

        [–][deleted] 231 points232 points  (1 child)

        He lived in Arizona, so pussyboy is probably stretching those medical retirement bux down in Rocky Point at the taxpayer’s permanent expense

        Fun fact, he was re-hired for the express purpose of getting a medical retirement for PTSD… for murdering an unarmed innocent man who was lying face-down on the floor.

        [–]Master-Shaq 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        This guy gets the royal treatment. I get out of the service and cant hear well from air relief valves popping in my ear and several near death experiences on a submarine and they just say “not service related lol”

        [–]John-AtWork 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Philip Brailsford, his name is Philip Brailsford. We shouldn't forget.

        [–]John-AtWork 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Philip Brailsford was his murderer.

        [–]BZLuck 61 points62 points  (0 children)

        I can't watch that video again. It made my physically ill the first time.

        [–]KGB_Operative873 45 points46 points  (0 children)

        Whats crazy is the cop that shot him got fired but later signed on with another police department for a short while then retired with a whopping 2500 per month.

        [–]Reaper_Messiah 160 points161 points  (8 children)

        His crying still lives in my memory since I saw that video, what, two years ago? One of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen. Should probably mark it NSFL.

        [–]mrmoe198 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        I remember arguing with someone in a comment section about that. Asshole bootlicker was talking about how he shouldn’t have reached to his waist band. Makes me so mad people defend those murderers.

        [–]OverturnedAppleCart3 27 points28 points  (3 children)

        Daniel Shaver.

        The judge in the trial against the killer described it as "a fatal game of Simon says"

        I think that's a pretty powerful and accurate way to put it.

        [–]loneliness_sucks_D 264 points265 points  (31 children)

        Does anybody know the legality of multiple officers all with different commands/instructions?

        The law says that you must comply with lawful orders.

        If one officer says hands in the air, and another officer says hands behind your back, you logically cannot do both, and therefore, will always be breaking the law.

        Its the same exact thing as if there was a law that said you cannot ride bikes on the sidewalk, but another law side all bikes must be operated while on a sidewalk, it logically cannot exist.

        Seems like multiple officers with different commands should not be legal

        [–]Agrona 190 points191 points  (6 children)

        Between being dead, qualified immunity, and the overwhelming influence of police unions gangs, the answer to that question is purely academic.

        [–]very_human 305 points306 points  (12 children)

        Does anybody know the legality of multiple officers all with different commands/instructions?

        The multiple orders at once is intentional not an accident. If you get told get on the ground, turn around, hands up in the air, no matter which option you choose to comply with there are two you're disobeying and therefore "resisting arrest" - the magic word to justify very literally any thing that cop will do to you in the following moments. There's even some departments that train cops to shout "resisting arrest" while and after assaulting civilians because bystanders will not remember the order of events only that it was said.

        It is 1000% a feature not a bug. There's more ways for cops to "justify" escalation than there are beloved family pets killed by cops each year (10,000 estimated annually as of 2018 despite cops not reporting every incident).

        [–]medicatedhippie420 112 points113 points  (2 children)

        There's even some departments that train cops to shout "resisting arrest" while and after assaulting civilians

        This went down during the murder of Tyre Nichols. Once he was cornered in the neighborhood, two cops held his arms while a third punched and kicked him repeatedly. The nature of the police bodycams being shaky in action made it somewhat difficult to tell, but the street CCTV clearly showed the third officer repeatedly yelling "stop resisting" while beating the restrained Tyre.

        Honestly I don't feel like the charges against the officers would have come through without the CCTV footage. With just the bodycams they probably would've gotten away with it fine like police do dozens of times a day across the country.

        [–]John_cCmndhd 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        I think the reason they were charged was specifically because it was horrible enough that there's a decent chance it would have been the last straw, and people might have finally done something about the police

        [–]mrlbi18 92 points93 points  (5 children)

        They train them to do that on purpose. Cops should have a single person chosen to give orders and having someone shout out a contrdictory order should get them removed from the force. It benefits no one and puts everyone at risk.

        [–]JimmyJamOnYou 162 points163 points  (3 children)

        I think they do it deliberately. That way there covered if someone wants to shoot. "Well he didn't comply with my ORDERS so I shot him"

        [–]rocketbob7 54 points55 points  (1 child)

        “Do you hear me boy?” Makes my blood boil. Pricks.

        [–]Rampant_baconator 50 points51 points  (1 child)

        That’s their excuse to kill people

        [–]daymuub 3364 points3365 points  (97 children)

        That's kootra from the creatures holy shit this Is a pretty old video

        [–]AHrice69 943 points944 points  (25 children)

        Just seeing that csgo menu I could tell it was early 2010s

        [–]ObiWanCanubi 222 points223 points  (13 children)

        It has to be after Sept 2014, he is wearing a Destiny faction shirt.

        [–]29ears 280 points281 points  (30 children)

        The creatures were awesome. They impacted my teen years greatly. I still watch James/Uberhaxornova on twitch.

        [–]tkomast3r77 96 points97 points  (12 children)

        I miss Seamus the most. Went on a several years long hiatus due to health stuff, came back for a year or so, and then left again... Hope he's doing well.

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          [–]IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Yeah uploading all those let's play videos every day would get you destroyed by the current youtube algorithm, but it did work really well in the old subscription focussed algorithm. Still remember when I found Seamus with his Borderlands 1 let's play series.

          [–]osrs1994ranger 69 points70 points  (11 children)

          What's James even play anymore? Last I saw years ago he was going some kind of GTA RP servers

          [–]Surca_Cirvive 65 points66 points  (3 children)

          He's just a variety Twitch streamer now, plays whatever he wants.

          [–]Mr-Industrial 87 points88 points  (12 children)

          Was a day 1 creature hub/cow chop viewer. Genuine surprise to see this clip surface considering yeah this was 2015, holy.

          [–]azalago 113 points114 points  (8 children)

          This is a pretty famous swatting video, it looks like someone just trimmed it from a YT compilation and zoomed in on his face.

          [–]ijbh2o 873 points874 points  (17 children)

          Reppin Future War Cult it seems

          [–]trashbox420 1069 points1070 points  (43 children)

          Before cops go into a place, can they decide which person is going to give commands. Maybe then they won’t be giving overlapping orders.

          [–]realparkingbrake 469 points470 points  (24 children)

          can they decide which person is going to give commands.

          There was a video here recently of some Sheriff's deputies in Florida of all places doing everything right, the commander yelled "One voice" whenever one deputy spoke over another. They had a crazy guy barricaded in his parent's home with them as his hostages, he had a history of violence, all the neighbors were terrified of him. They took their time, backed off when it seemed like he was getting crazier. Finally he charged one of the deputies with a knife in his hand and was shot twice, not fatally. It was good to see a department with training and command done right.

          [–]csimonson 123 points124 points  (15 children)

          That's honestly surprising. They should start doing fucking training classes around the country.

          [–]Realistic_Honey7081 165 points166 points  (2 children)

          No.

          That wouldn’t entirely negate their ability to say it was an accident when they got bored and shot someone.

          [–]Chris89883 38 points39 points  (0 children)

          But then how will they shoot them or use excessive force for an "uncooperative" suspect?!

          [–]U_need_2_try 816 points817 points  (31 children)

          I remember the creatures

          [–]Anuuket 251 points252 points  (25 children)

          i still get sad thinking about their breakup :(

          [–]poklane 1375 points1376 points  (47 children)

          Relevant: a family who was the victim of a fatal swatting over a Call of Duty match in 2017 was just recently awarded $5million. The person who provided the address of the victim was sentenced to 15 months, the caller to 20 years.

          The police officer who fired the bullet wasn't even investigated despite the victim cooperating (surprise surprise, American police not giving a horse ass about their own men killing people for no good reason) and was later even promoted.

          https://www.polygon.com/23652429/call-of-duty-wwii-swatting-police-killing-settled

          [–]Unfazed_One 686 points687 points  (29 children)

          Im from Wichita and this was just a horrendous deal.

          Guy answered the door and got killed by cops, not knowing what the f was going. The swatter unknowingly gave the wrong address for the person he was trying to swat. A female relative of the victim that lived there, ended up committing suicide not long after. Soon after that, her boyfriend committed suicide. 3 needless deaths. Sad.

          [–]HereWeFuckingGooo 20 points21 points  (2 children)

          The swatter unknowingly gave the wrong address for the person he was trying to swat.

          It was the intended swatting victim, Shane Gaskill, that deliberately gave Casey Viner (the one doing the swatting) the wrong address of Andrew Finch. Gaskill ended up getting 18 months in prison just for giving the wrong address to avoid being swatted himself. Casey Viner got 15 months. Tyler Bariss, who Viner got to actually make the swat call, got 20 years. Bariss was homeless and had already been in prison for making bomb threats. The cop that actually killed Finch was never even charged.

          What even is America?

          [–]PabloEdvardo 313 points314 points  (17 children)

          you know things are bad when there would have been less death/violence had the threat been real and the cops never even showed up

          how many people have to innocently die before people realize they aren't protecting us?

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            [–]TheRealPeterVenkman 60 points61 points  (1 child)

            Get your hands up! Put your hands down!

            On the ground! Stand Up!

            He was non-compliant so we shot him dead.

            Administrative leave, full pay.

            [–]Murph934 729 points730 points  (27 children)

            Was the foot on the guys back really that necessary?

            [–]poklane 619 points620 points  (2 children)

            It's American police, of course they're gonna cross the line.

            [–]EyedLady 112 points113 points  (0 children)

            Of course it is. Is it really an American arrest if you aren’t aggressive and put your weight on someone’s back.

            [–]BGG_Zero 42 points43 points  (0 children)

            It is how they get blood into their penis and nothing is more important.

            [–]ohjeezrick117 170 points171 points  (0 children)

            American hog training at work

            [–]aBeaSTWiTHiNMe 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            The unarmed kid who was completely compliant and showing his hands? Yeah no definitely need at least two officers to step on him, doesn't matter that we have like 9 guns pointed at him too. Bad cop went to remove the webcam too.

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              [–]NBmonke 191 points192 points  (2 children)

              just more evidence of the brutal discrimination us gamers face daily. truly the most oppressed minority

              [–]flywing1 150 points151 points  (1 child)

              lol that one cop knew right away what was going on but also still wanted to be tough

              [–]Birkeland1992 77 points78 points  (0 children)

              Yeah, you could see him staring at himself on the camera overlay.. he was posing with that rifle like, yeah, I look gooood

              [–]Agitated-Poet-7074 116 points117 points  (8 children)

              My cvs store in upstate ny was swatted 2 weeks ago. I was working with someone else around closing. Said they probably won't catch the person.

              [–]conundrumbombs 75 points76 points  (2 children)

              Translation: "we are not going to launch an investigation."

              [–]Halvus_I 4718 points4719 points  (221 children)

              'Dont you fucking move, you hear me boy?!?'

              What a bunch of fucking clowns.

              [–]Lord_Despair 235 points236 points  (2 children)

              With the stomp on the back.

              [–]b7uc3 3615 points3616 points 2 (153 children)

              Yep. Police shouldn't swear or insult people. It's horrendously unprofessional.

              I've been downvoted to oblivion for saying that before, but I stand by it. It's a lack of decorum and scene-control for them to shout "fuck" every other word. Among many other problems, maybe the most important is that it undermines the expectation that police are going to treat you 1) with professionalism and 2) use only the force required to subdue you.

              We all know both 1 and 2 are absolutely not true, of course, but the belief that the police aren't just maniacs who are going empty their mag into your chest actually protects the police themselves. If you believe they're going to treat you fairly and not harm you, you're far less likely to try to resist. The world the police are currently building is one where people might as well seize the initiative when confronted by the police.

              [–]sanfranchristo 356 points357 points  (18 children)

              Also, all of them shouting at once. At a very basic biological level, if you actually want someone to hear you and "comply," you should endeavor to make it as easy as possible. Which means, one person for them to focus on, speaking at a reasonable speed, and, ideally (when safe) engaging in a dialog to confirm they understand you, etc. We've seen horrific examples of multiple cops shouting contradictory information that has led to deaths. It should be 101 before they bust in the door to align on exactly who is doing what vis-a-vis the suspect, including and especially giving direction to them.

              ETA: I wonder what the training actually is for this scenario. I continue to be shocked that there isn't one person designated to address the suspect. If I go into a meeting with my team, I know exactly who is sharing their screen, who is clicking, who is narrating, who is answering what questions, etc. and we aren't carrying cannons. It would take like :05 as part of the prep.

              [–]Maehlice 153 points154 points  (6 children)

              I wonder what the training actually is for this scenario.

              Training? That's cute. Our police go through what amounts to a semester of night classes before being sent out.

              If this is an actual special team ("swat"), they've been given paramilitary training, which barely applies here.

              [–]omegadirectory 22 points23 points  (2 children)

              You know how in every action movie, when two characters walk into a tense situation that one character is familiar with but the other isn't, and the character who is familiar says, "Just let me do the talking"?

              Cops should just do that.

              [–]NotUhhPro 67 points68 points  (1 child)

              Man had his hands up well before any of them even entered the room and the clowns are still all yelling for him to raise his hands. Bunch of cosplaying cowards

              [–]Reggaejunkiejew31 185 points186 points  (5 children)

              They can't wait for a moment to act like controlling psychopaths

              [–]tiktock34 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              If i cant say it to my boss, they shouldn’t be able to say it to a citizen while on duty.

              [–]Wooden_Kiwi7232 3915 points3916 points  (126 children)

              Pig stepping on him while he’s nothing but cooperative is the epitome of pig culture in America

              [–]Reggaejunkiejew31 1636 points1637 points  (89 children)

              Dude was so compliant and calm. Yet they still acted like animals.

              [–]GoldenShoeLace 929 points930 points  (61 children)

              Dude aggressively kicking his leg to make him spread his legs wider was so annoying.

              [–]crypticfreak 354 points355 points  (46 children)

              Imagine being 13 and swatting someone because you think it'll be hilarious and then the cops fucking kill the guy.

              That could have happened here EASILY. Shit your odds of getting killed in a traffic stop are pretty high but this is like one sneeze away from lights out.

              [–]RyzDOGE 195 points196 points  (16 children)

              This has already happened and the swatter got sent down for 20 years.

              [–]Tabemaju 123 points124 points  (15 children)

              Swatter took no responsibility and blamed the police. I mean, they do have blame but so does he.

              [–]ExtremePrivilege 92 points93 points  (7 children)

              The type of person to swat another guy would love this, actually.

              [–]Wooden_Kiwi7232 270 points271 points  (14 children)

              Pig behavior won’t change until we raise class consciousness, remove qualified immunity and make policing require more than a few weeks of “training”. Hairdressers require more training than cops.

              [–]ttaptt 87 points88 points  (4 children)

              As to your last point, more training by months, and state licensing. If you fuck up cutting hair you have more repercussions than a cop shooting an unarmed child. What the fuck.

              [–]Wooden_Kiwi7232 35 points36 points  (1 child)

              Oh they need years of training in perpetuity for me, community oversight boards, disbanding their union and mandatory beat walks/crossing guard duties.

              [–]Faintkay 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              Then they complain the public doesn’t like them

              [–]Safe-Voice-8179 109 points110 points  (6 children)

              “Don’t you F**cking move, you hear me, boy?”

              What a douche.

              [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

              That’s pretty standard for cops. They have zero incentive or obligation to not be gigantic, massive cocksuckers whenever they feel like it.

              [–]Klin24 36 points37 points  (0 children)

              There's a special place in hell for swatters.

              [–]hatesfacebook2022 40 points41 points  (4 children)

              Pretty rough treatment there for someone that is innocent until proven guilty.

              [–]eddododo 98 points99 points  (4 children)

              Sure wish that cops’ immediate reaction to someone calmly complying wasn’t to stomp on their back and continue to point 30 guns at them

              [–]claymationss 31 points32 points  (0 children)

              These officers immediately open the door and try to use intimidation tactics rather than de-escalation tactics. His hands are already up before one word by them is said, and you have two cops yelling hands up while others yell whatever else. Horrible horrible policing.

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                [–]justjoeindenver 43 points44 points  (13 children)

                Probably one of the reasons they're so quick to go to their guns.

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                  [–]justjoeindenver 24 points25 points  (0 children)

                  Even worse - they take an IQ test to become a police officer here. Irony: if they score too high, they're disqualified.

                  [–]ashley-hazers 2416 points2417 points  (146 children)

                  I feel like swatting only works because of how dumb and reactionary US police are. The first response to a call is to have 8 units bust in with assault rifles 🙄.

                  Like, maybe do a couple seconds of investigation before this?

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                    [–]Used_Dentist_8885 21 points22 points  (0 children)

                    Swatting a rando is not a threat, going into a school is a threat. Both situations are consistent with cops being cowardly bullies

                    [–]Slobbadobbavich 77 points78 points  (0 children)

                    They probably enjoy it more than the person making the call.

                    [–]IAmRoofstone 82 points83 points  (1 child)

                    Turns out one of the easiest way to put someone in a life threatening situation in The US is to just call the cops on them

                    [–]rocketlauncher2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                    That's literally all it takes and it's gotten people killed. It's using everything bad about US police against another person.

                    [–]Stella-462 274 points275 points  (5 children)

                    8 cops guns a blazing show up within minutes….meanwhile wall street, corporations, and banks go unregulated by american government! No attention is made to white collar crimes that greed which truthfully leads to more damage on Americans than guns ever did…. They wonder why the system is collapsing. watch it burn boys watch it burn.

                    [–]Anuuket 71 points72 points  (1 child)

                    Kootra on YT if anyone wants to watch the whole thing

                    [–]buckeye27fan 19 points20 points  (4 children)

                    Weird how they never seem to do this with the ACTUAL dangerous people that have a multiple reports on them. Y'know, the ones that end up being mass shooters or actual terrorists.

                    [–]TheTimn 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                    Highlight of their day. You can see how happy the sunglasses indoors cop is to be wearing his Tacticool sunnies indoors.

                    [–]gmillerd 116 points117 points  (1 child)

                    Classic, sadly common and has moved to other forums outside of gaming.

                    Sadly the police only seem to care about death threats when there is some hype in it for them somehow. You even have politicians calling for the deaths of their peers without any action taken.

                    [–]oddmanout 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                    This is one of those examples where they bust in there all yelling something different so all you hear is "GET ON THE HURGURGRND UA GETUER HANDS UGE LEMME SGUUUUUU."

                    They should task ONE guy with giving commands so people know what the fuck is going on.

                    [–]TheRanchMan226 14 points15 points  (3 children)

                    Why do they continue to go so hard when they realise he is just sitting at a computer and complying? Can't they like lower their guns and figure out what's going on?

                    [–]001235 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                    "Don't you move, boy." Yeah. That cop is unhinged AF...well, I guess that's redundant.

                    [–]Dugalu 41 points42 points  (1 child)

                    Cops are so fucking stupid its wild

                    [–]UmmHelloIGuess 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                    Lol this is from like 2014. Kootra back when The Creatures were still around

                    [–]BolOfSpaghettios 12 points13 points  (2 children)

                    That foot to the back is pretty unnecessary, especially with a compliant suspect.

                    [–]gdgriz 51 points52 points  (3 children)

                    They’re very brave when there’s no danger. If this was an elementary school shooting they’d be pushing themselves 5000 ft from any door or window until the popping sounds stop.

                    [–]PapaDeathTrips 26 points27 points  (6 children)

                    Kootra? That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time, hope he’s doing well nowadays

                    [–]NaughtySnape 29 points30 points  (5 children)

                    He’s gone into game design and is a lead designer at some company. Not much of a media presence anymore, but he’s doing well for himself I’d say. Putting his managerial business skills and love for video games to good use.

                    [–]PapaDeathTrips 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                    Woah really? That’s awesome, do you know what company?

                    [–]natener 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    This clown show should probably be used as a teaching aid on why clear communication and de-escallation are so important.

                    If this had been an actual incident, it could have gone badly for all... they're all methed up on their emotions, foaming at the mouth, they can't even communicate with each other when they're screaming like school girls.