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SK Gaming vs. G2 / LEC 2023 Spring - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion (self.leagueoflegends)

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LEC 2023 SPRING

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MATCH 1: SK vs. G2

Winner: G2 Esports in 29m
Match History | Game Breakdown

Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
SK gragas varus draven missfortune samira 45.6k 11 3 M3
G2 annie xayah vi renekton jax 59.7k 17 11 I1 H2 H4 C5 B6 C7 B8
SK 11-17-28 vs 17-11-47 G2
Irrelevant sion 3 3-4-3 TOP 5-0-7 4 chogath BrokenBlade
Markoon elise 1 3-5-7 JNG 5-2-9 1 maokai Yike
Sertuss akali 3 4-4-2 MID 3-2-8 1 jayce Caps
Exakick lucian 2 1-1-5 BOT 4-2-10 3 kalista Hans Sama
Doss nami 2 0-3-11 SUP 0-5-13 2 nautilus Mikyx

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[–]borkbanquet 245 points246 points  (3 children)

As a sion lover I thought irrelevant still had a great game. Grouped with his team, did his best to help, played interference (that flash when interrupting backs topside for Sertuss to get a tower was great). But sk comp kinda dog into g2s. Gg

[–]Anae-Evqns 68 points69 points  (1 child)

Sion into Cho us a nightmare too,

[–]borkbanquet 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Yeah. For him to have such impact in a counter matchup was just great.

[–]MelonheadGT 15 points16 points  (0 children)

WP to this Sion! He played safe in lane, minimized deaths. Yeah he let some CS go but now he's scaled and working with his team to end the game. WP to this Sion!

[–]alterise 169 points170 points  (23 children)

Macro diff

[–]Haymegle 98 points99 points  (19 children)

Can be scary how different some teams are in that area tbh.

[–][deleted] 88 points89 points  (4 children)

Legit all I was hearing was SK getting picks on the cast then I swapped tabs and G2 is up in gold?

[–]FocaDaGuerra 72 points73 points  (1 child)

The moment they pointed out that Caps was almost 4k ahead of enemy mid purely out of map gold was magical

[–]Silverjackal_ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Wonder how much was from first strike too.

[–]arbok_obama 39 points40 points  (0 children)

They were down 1-5 in kills to start, but they were ahead in gold and neutral objectives, it never felt like they were really under pressure

[–]VilltraAnime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's because G2 won all 3 lanes lol

[–]BCS24 7 points8 points  (0 children)

5-1 and the gold graph looked like they were never down, G2 just know how to milk the map

[–]Sunitsa 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Caps macro difference

[–]irumaisbaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sadly, Markoon just didnt have the best day

[–]R_Elisee 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Mikyx was playing on the edge of int, you can see it here and there but he managed to get it under control.

[–]dracdliwasiAN+VCS enjoyer+ 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Claps with the EU Jayce

[–]pablm4 572 points573 points  (8 children)

DANCE ON THEM BB!

Edit: lol the awkward silence when Caedrel didn’t follow up on the “~it’s so big~” comment near the end too

[–]Xaneth_ 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Was lowkey waiting for Caedrel to just drop the most casual "thanks" and continue casting the game like nothing happened.

[–]XtendedImpact explanation i.imgur.com/UZSfn3e.png 173 points174 points  (0 children)

the awkward silence when Caedrel didn’t follow up on the “~it’s so big~” comment near the end too

it was a bit of an unexpected double entendre

[–]F3nik3r Perkz <3 87 points88 points  (4 children)

I loved it - was waiting on some joke about big package from xPeke days

[–]studna13 78 points79 points  (3 children)

I especially like the Corki pick because he has a big package and so do I

I miss the days of Peke and Cyanide

[–]popmycherryyosh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cyanide on the desk was freaking AWEOMSE!!.. That man was TRULY a gem!

[–]Skall77 293 points294 points  (28 children)

The rare good EU Jayce game.

[–]Darkoplax 251 points252 points  (2 children)

Caps gets the Jayce pass

[–]Ayuyuyunia 41 points42 points  (1 child)

for spring. caps jayce was 1/4 powerspike in winter lol

[–]Fosco11235 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of 2020 Nuguri

Is two towers down 0/4 on Vlad then still hard Carries the game

[–]Haymegle 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Seems to work okay in midlane for some.

[–]Omnilatent 114 points115 points  (2 children)

Mid Jayces in EU have been legit the whole season so far

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Even the Jayce tops were good when not played by actual EU players lol

[–]snubb 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Szygenda did have one solo carry Jayce game tbf!

[–]Omnilatent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh right, I knew I forgot one good EU top Jayce game

[–]Thecristo96 ABS MAIN 98 points99 points  (1 child)

Caps is honorary Asian since 2018

[–]BoomBerryy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But he's not the only good one

[–]jlozada24 4 points5 points  (0 children)

EU mids > EU Jayce

[–]DeloronDellister- LEC - 41 points42 points  (12 children)

EU mid jayce is good though

[–]VilltraAnime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's because it was midlane, I feel like all EU mids are at least okay on the jayce

[–]Trovo200 beemi justice 93 points94 points  (0 children)

The real winner of this match was Demolish

[–]Gazskull 326 points327 points  (15 children)

not so fun fact Markoon, Exakick, Caps, BB, Mikyx all were in the same last CQ game they did yesterday (yes propaganda for CQ because there's legit banger matches in there now... BB went 0/11 on Yone top)

Markoon and Exa could have expected the Caps shenaningans on his Jayce, he did the same yesterday :o

[–]non-edgy_crustaceanJankos is my bbgrl 122 points123 points  (0 children)

Now we know who teaches Evi toplane stuff

[–]Darkoplax 20 points21 points  (0 children)

BB was actually 0/14 yone

[–]kismetjeska reformed fnatic fan 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Is there a way to watch CQ games?

[–]Gazskull 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I don't know about a channel in particular that focuses on CQ, maybe there is one, personnally I follow it through pro streaming it themselves, yesterday it was Exakick for example

[–]OldManPip 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Yes, this works both for EU and NA: https://www.factor.gg/champions-queue

Will depend on the players they're tracking to be streaming of course, but some good stuff coming out of there.

[–]kismetjeska reformed fnatic fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]MarxistPigeon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exakick's twitch channel has the vod I think

[–]00Koch00 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Wasnt cq dead?

[–]Guest_1300Daddy Enjoyer 22 points23 points  (0 children)

eu cq was never dead, but there were some days where it had very few players (especially from lec pros) and people made a ruckus lol.

[–]Yeon_Yihwa 91 points92 points  (1 child)

No multiple erl Leagues was playing and the lec winter playoffs was finished so teams had a break, the guy who called it dead was treatz a non pro player.

I assume this tweet is just for clicks, but in the event he actually believes it -

the following ERLs were playing while Treatz was in queue: LFL, UL,AL,LVP2,PRM2,ES2,LPLOL2

Which is a reduction of 90 players at any one time, not including those prepping for next game.

https://twitter.com/VeteranEU/status/1631260837070397441?s=20

[–]Jozoz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah, so that extremely toxic thread on Reddit was actually based on nothing. What a surprise.

[–]Gazskull 44 points45 points  (0 children)

it was dead in between splits or something, I'm not on twitch often but the few times I've watched some LoL outside of official broadcasts, I've seen CQ games with 10 LEC pros in it so I guess it's not

still the hours where it opens are a bit crap so it would help changing it to maintain it alive but oh well

edit : turns out it wasn't dead in the end even back then

[–]Quirkybomb930 24 points25 points  (0 children)

treatz attention farming

[–]RepanseMilos 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Nope, was bullshit. NA fans parroted it around like a "gotcha" moment but there were fair circumstances why no Queue's popped.

[–]What-a-Filthy-liar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who hasnt gone 0-11 gone or yasuo?

[–]Dzules 79 points80 points  (1 child)

Akali into 3 tanks breh.

[–]cadaada rip original flair 28 points29 points  (0 children)

and elise

its been YEARS since elise was able to deal with them lol

[–]Tobbbb 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Rain sounds and Sion vs Cho to study and relax to.

[–]alpostor 69 points70 points  (2 children)

What caps did in 20.20 minute is why he is such a unique player lmao, there is soo little player who would do such a play man dropped behind the enemy line 1v4

[–]LucilleBlues313 41 points42 points  (1 child)

the cocoon juke was game winning

[–]alpostor 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah that play literally won the game, they got baron after that too

[–]DeloronDellister- LEC - 372 points373 points  (6 children)

Cho'gath feasted on that Sertussy

[–]Omnilatent 111 points112 points  (1 child)

I did NOT want to have this picture in my head

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (2 children)

Can we please agree to stop calling it the Sertussy

[–]Polygarra 113 points114 points  (0 children)

No.

[–]FawnWithStick Lamb Lover 6 points7 points  (0 children)

its his nickname tho

[–]Haymegle 172 points173 points  (13 children)

G2 looking good once again. Such good teamfighting.

[–]Omnilatent 82 points83 points  (10 children)

How did they outscale with a fucking Kalista that did not get any meaningful early lead?!

[–]Haymegle 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I've learnt to stop questioning it tbh. Some things make no sense haha.

[–]fabton12 40 points41 points  (0 children)

well you see sk have elise who is the meaning of i can't scale.

then the rest of the team isnt built to kill 3 tanks so kalista can just play the game since her wall can't die so she can hip hop

[–]R_Elisee 34 points35 points  (2 children)

The Jayce kept the tempo high and they managed to get a lot of tower very early. You can win solely off of that cause a fed Jayce can split push, team fight, poke all in one. It’s a broken champ.

[–]lifeinpaddyspub 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Honestly now that his late game is cracked and his laning phase is perfectly fine, he can kinda just take over a game by himself half the time

[–]Quirkybomb930 4 points5 points  (0 children)

cant really do it by himself, you need ur jg/sup to protect you fron ganks or ur fucked

[–]Randomcarrot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both teams had huge tanks and neither team had good tank killers so it all just comes down to momentum since that lets you fish for picks on vulnerable targets. And G2, whatever their flaws, are fucking great at playing with momentum and not giving their opponent a moment to breathe.

[–]Gluroo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

i mean the other team has elise lucian nami lol

youre acting like they outscaled prime azir jinx gwen

[–]Omnilatent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lucian Nami scales almost equally well as Zeri Lulu which is why they are traded on that patch all the time

[–]MarxistPigeon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lucian was doing less damage than Kalista

[–]Swaamsalaam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kalista being bad mid-late is a lie, yes she doesn't scale as hard as a bunch of other ADs but she is still very fine on even gold.

[–]cayneloop 4 points5 points  (1 child)

the fact they were 5-1 down in kills and 2k gold ahead is illegal

they lose teamfight at dragon and end up with net positive gold overall somehow. g2 is actually playing chess while everyone else playing checkers

[–]Haymegle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genuinely impressive how much control they have at times.

[–]Tinheart2137 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Imagine being like 4 or 5 kills behind and still 2k+ gold up

[–]Verse6 89 points90 points  (9 children)

The pause after Drakos said "It's so big" is just iconic

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Drakos*

[–]LucilleBlues313 44 points45 points  (3 children)

it's always funny when someone edits their mistake and then the person who called it out just looks like an idiot ^^

[–]THZHDY 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Person*

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are looking at one >_<

[–]HarvestAllTheSouls 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Last game something similar happened when Caedral said something along the lines of 'needed just a couple of inches' when someone missed a skillshot I think. Drakos started to respond really quietly with 'we all do' but Caedral just started talking over it on purpose haha.

[–]rotvyrn 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I wanna hear that, any information to narrow down when it wouldve been?

[–]cows_go_mooooo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

FNC vs MAD, near the end when fnatic has baron buff and is pushing bot lane inhib tower. Hyli tries to hook humanoid as nautilus and humanoid stands still in the jungle corridor, looking Hyli in the face as the anchor lands right at his feet

[–]G2Esports 236 points237 points  (9 children)

Imagine trying to ban out Hans

[–]CeilingCat56 59 points60 points  (7 children)

Hans Sama is a world class adc. I'm excited to see what he can do at MSI.

[–]Kheldar166 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Be interesting for sure, G2’s identity so far in EU has been drafting psycho early botlane so (Draven, Kalista, Samira) and snowballing through bot, I have to imagine it’ll be much harder to win those 2v2s/3v3s vs international botlanes. Be interesting to see how G2 adapt to it.

[–]Fosco11235 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but you can’t forget the draft of all of G2 has been psycho

[–]DogTheGayFish 55 points56 points  (0 children)

For how simple Cho is he is really fun to play and watch. Big boi just wants another morsel

[–]Studyingisweak 50 points51 points  (0 children)

BB Cho gath Ramadan montage

[–]Darkoplax 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Irrelevant roamed and helped his team but Cho'gath getting 4 plates was too much I guess

But I love to see these comps on G2 ; just tanks top/jng and let Caps/Hans carry

[–]tzukitzu 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I honestly prefer the carry jungel style they did in winter. Its just mire unique and fun to watch for me

[–]Asuras9393 5 points6 points  (0 children)

13.5 there is more gold in the jungle, so maybe they will do it then again. They are still playing on 13.4 right now.

[–]fabton12 10 points11 points  (2 children)

carry jungle style when you have caps is a war crime tbh i get other teams doing it but G2 should only do it when carry jungle style matchs up well against there enemy.

[–]Asuras9393 6 points7 points  (1 child)

you can play carry jungle with carry adc and carry mid, you need tank top and tank support then though which still would fit the current G2.

[–]What-a-Filthy-liar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As has been proven with winter split.

Why keep having uike prove his preferred jungle style? Prove he can run a clean game on gank jungles?

You cant target ban Hans' pocket picks, Cap's purse( oversized pocket), and Yike's picks.

[–]bensonbenisson 22 points23 points  (0 children)

THAT'S THE G2 CLASSIC RIGHT THERE!

[–]PerfidiaVermis 24 points25 points  (0 children)

So many Cho flash + Rs, you love to see it

[–]iiHadi69claps no cap 57 points58 points  (9 children)

G2 is so weird, it felt like they were losing until they suddenly win a single fight and then they just win the game.

[–]Omnilatent 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Felt like they were losing all game long but somehow they were up 2k, then 4k and one fight and suddenly it explodes to 10k...

[–]CeilingCat56 44 points45 points  (0 children)

That is the magic of G2 macro.

[–]Demens2137 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Losing? Sure they were down 4 kills, but I don't think they ever lost gold lead

[–]Applejuiceislovely12 caps 28 points29 points  (0 children)

they were only down in kills, never in gold

[–]fabton12 17 points18 points  (3 children)

so g2 since 2019 where they lose until they don't.

some how even with all the player and staff changes they still keep that trait must be caps magic.

[–]Noatz 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It was Perkz magic back in the day, or at least commonly attributed to Perkz.

[–]Fosco11235 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But as we can see it was apparently caps magic

[–]fabton12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i only say caps since hes the only common factor on every single roster from 2019 to current day

[–]Kheldar166 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Macro is OP

[–]SK_GAMING_FAN 29 points30 points  (0 children)

A little bit of doubtful decisions here and there but still very good game... the SK chants were a bit shy but beautiful :')... Seeing us head to head vs G2 makes me hopefull for a MSI run, this guy Caps is a f-ing monster, sometimes I think he can see the future. And I'm happy that even tho they have a player of this caliber we were able to play a good game against them

[–]lolKhamul 24 points25 points  (0 children)

OH LAWD HE COMIN

/r/Chonkers definitely approves of BB's Cho

[–]LucilleBlues313 20 points21 points  (1 child)

This is the playstyle that can win G2 the World Championship...

I call it the 'take your shirt off and say SUP over and over again' strategy, also known as 'open your textbook on page 17 and then fling it in your opponents nuts'

and what is does is, it completely levels the playing field, no matter how good and methodical your opponent is, it'll inevitibly devolve into an even brawl and the better scrapper wins.

[–]Kheldar166 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree that playing a fast scrappy style is the best bet for an EU team to see international success, but idk if this game was really an example of that G2 we’re up gold and down kills, that’s not generally something that happens when you’re just picking crazy fights and not worrying about macro

[–]Vedis90 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Great game from G2. Caps was styling!

[–]ImTheVayne 9 points10 points  (0 children)

G2 looking really good

[–]Omnilatent 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Someone check Mikyx PC...

[–]Demens2137 3 points4 points  (0 children)

SK cosplaying G2 from game against Koi, letting Cho get all the plates. G2 took it step further and Jayce also took all the plates

[–]Omnilatent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stinker game from Markoon

[–]Javiklegrand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That macro diff,G2 likely going to sweep playoffs they are so far above damn

[–]Ambitious-Pudding437 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Caps is kinda sus sometimes