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[–]Strong-Plum-2974 Lions 241 points242 points  (23 children)

Feel like Achane is in that 2nd tier of dudes

[–]Dhkansas12T/1QB/.5PPR 23 points24 points  (15 children)

I'm trying to move up in my draft to guarantee that I get him. Love him in the Miami offense

[–]Therothboys318 3 points4 points  (14 children)

How high do you think you gotta go

[–]PunchesChinchillas Breece for Impact 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just traded up to 2.02 to grab him in our draft last night. I offered the guy 2.06 and 2.07 for his 2.02 and next years 2 and he countered with my 2.07 and 3.11 for 2.02 and i smashed that lol.

[–]Bobwalski 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"why pay me 100 when I'll gladly accept 45!"

[–]Dhkansas12T/1QB/.5PPR 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I have 1.01(Bijan), 1.07 and 1.10. I'm thinking of moving 1.10 and 2.11 for 1.05 and tanning Charb and Achane at 5 & 7. I couple of recent mocks I've done say I'm fine not to move up but I want to make sure

[–]ElderberryJolly9818 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Idk how you get to 1.05 with 1.10/2.11, but if you can, smash that.

[–]Dhkansas12T/1QB/.5PPR 4 points5 points  (3 children)

He's considering it. At first he was going to do 1.05 and 2.04 for 1.10, 2.10 and '24 2nd but decided not to

[–]ut3ddy87 Houston Hair Thiefs 13 points14 points  (2 children)

That's terrible for them. Cost me 9, 11 and a 24 second to go to 5 for Gibbs/Stroud

[–]Dhkansas12T/1QB/.5PPR 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's 1 QB so idk if that changes it at all. If he doesn't accept I'll just roll the dice with who I've got and hope for the best

[–]TacosNachos007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’ll easily be able to get him at 1.07, but you never know

[–]what_is_this_memery 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Achane is absolute fool’s gold. It blows my mind that people are putting him in that tier

[–]BigTomBombadil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feels like he’d be great if you’re in a dyno bestball (which I am), but will be wildly frustrating otherwise

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I hear ya - maybe its just me that wont be drafting him bc of his size.

[–]mahones403 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He's been the RB3 or 4 in 3 leagues I've drafted sp far, ahead of Miller in every one if them.

[–]I_HateToSayAtodaso 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was worried about his size until I saw his playing style. He has incredible contact balance for a guy his size. He's not gonna be the guy that you want on the goal line or in short yardage because he doesn't have enough power, but he has an uncanny ability to break tackles in space. Between that, his receiving ability and the way his skillset projects to a zone scheme, I think he's going to end up one of the top backs from this class, even if he's not a traditional every down type back.

[–]randobot456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im taking charbs over him, but achane is my rb4 in the class

[–]PregnantManVirus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way too small

[–]Officer_Hops Chiefs 62 points63 points  (13 children)

Why is Miller tier 2 due to landing spot and draft capital but Achane isn’t?

[–]tonyval714 54 points55 points  (11 children)

Because achane is a small boi

[–]Kaboost 19 points20 points  (9 children)

He’s also ridiculously fast & got a decent landing spot.

[–]4badfish20 15 points16 points  (4 children)

He will be a fine irl player, but he's a gadget guy. They'll have maybe 5-10 set plays for him, but he's too small in pass pro, can't handle a full workload getting smashed by 6'3 linebackers.

Darren sproles is his ceiling, and he had 1 top ten fantasy season because he was an all pro receiver. There just isn't a good track record for small fast running backs having reliable fantasy production.

[–]123retro 6 points7 points  (2 children)

He’s going to be awful to own in fantasy. He’ll house a TD or two early in the season, and everyone will lose their minds. People will buy him at peak prices and then he’ll settle into 8-10 touches a game and be boom/bust all season. Great for bestball, not so great for other formats.

[–]4badfish20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup exactly my thought. I would draft him just to sell at the beginning of the season but he's going at 1.10 in some of my leagues. Don't think his value goes much higher than that unless week 1 he has a 2 td game like you were saying. Just not worth the risk when miller is going after him and is much more likely to become an every down back

[–]kmk5414 Birds of War 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure you just described Rondale Moores rookie season… WR vs RB but similar size vs Draft Capital & Landing Spot discussions with him coming out

[–]burnerboo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CJ2K is the GOAT small boi. He was definitely an exception to the rule too. I like my dudes a bit beefier these days.

[–]PristineFF 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Also in a very crowded RB room that already liked to split up touches.

[–]ShadeMir 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Mostert is 31 and Wilson is 27. Achane won’t be fighting that long and unless you need immediate starter what’s the issue

[–]PristineFF 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Both signed 2 year deals this off-season and they're rumored to still want Dalvin too. They'll probably sign other RBs if the older guys leave.

[–]ShadeMir 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s what “won’t be fighting for long” was relating to. Also the dolphins would/should want to sign them to deals longer than a year because they know the system and Miami has had depth issues. But he’s in a position where he can, depending on how he plays, easily take the backfield from them.

Additionally the fact that they signed those RBs to the deal doesn’t mean as much. I never understand why I see people bring deals up when they’re short term. Did Miami know when they signed them that they would shortly be able to draft Achane? No. They have to act accordingly as though they’re not able to draft someone they’re interested in.

[–]RG221987 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm out on achane as well, too small

[–]cruelcinema 80 points81 points  (11 children)


[–]Barian_Fostate 5 points6 points  (10 children)

He's top of tier 2 for me, RB2 overall, but I understand that my feelings on this class are different than most.

[–]Grand_Quiet_2996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like it. He should be plenty fresh after playing behind Bijan but he's got that prototypical size you're looking for eh. I've got 1.09 in 1QB and think he's my guy there

[–]BigTomBombadil 1 point2 points  (1 child)

.. why?

He’s in a muddled backfield with others of similar talent, on a team where the QB is realistically the RB1. I’m a Texas alum/fan and have watched 15+ of his college games, and while I love his leadership/personality and thought he was a good player, there is zero reason for me to see him as the RB2 in this class.

[–]Barian_Fostate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would not characterize Fields as the RB1. They had to lean into his rushing ability schematically last year because it was all they could do, but with improved pass pro, and improved weapons, I believe they will cut down on the designed rushing calls for him significantly.

As for Roschon, really the only reason that he wasn't seen as a consensus top five back in the country is because he was behind Bijan. He was first in all of FBS in forced missed tackles per attempt (by a lot), and had an even higher Yards after contact per attempt than Bijan too. He didn't get the same number of carries, but on the carries he did get he was incredibly efficient - historically efficient, actually.

He's got good hands, he can pass protect, and he's an extremely talented runner. As far as talent goes, he's second in this class imo.

[–]WiSeIVIaN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like Roschon and love the Bears, but this is a bit too much Kool-aid for me bud.

[–]cruelcinema 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Agreed there. I absolutely love roschon and think people are sleeping on him way too much in dynasty. Take it from someone who’s watched roschon for 4 years, he will be good

[–]Pokeman49 Lions 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I don’t think I’ve read a single bad thing about him in this sub. It seems to me he’s being overrated.

[–]cruelcinema 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s possible that he may in this sub, I haven’t been in this sub for long so I don’t know the subs opinion on really any player. I was referring to things more on Twitter and just internet rankings I’ve seen

[–]WrekkmeRalph -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He'll be there at 2.2 for me so I'm making sure I get Kincaid or Mayer in the first (TEP) then I'm grabbing him.

[–]Jrbowe 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Achane, although like others, I’d put him in the Charbonnet/Miller tier.

[–]HomelessSadVirgin 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I like him over Charb even. He’s my RB3

[–]PaulBlartFleshMall Eagles 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Even after it came out that Miami was trying to trade for Swift after they drafted dude?

[–]HieloLuz 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That’s not overly telling. Most teams would look into a young player who has performed extremely well and is available

[–]HomelessSadVirgin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m guessing over a third of the league at least reached out about him. Most teams probably do some form of behind the scenes for any big time FA or open for trade prospect

[–]the_ginge_1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I like Chase Brown and his landing spot with Mixon on the decline and his future with the Bengals uncertain.

Achane, Kendre and Charbs are a tier 2 for me

[–]Shab373 13 points14 points  (2 children)

It’s Achane. The fastest back in the draft joins an offense that likes to score points. Achane was impressive in a terrible offense last year. He’s going to be excellent for the dolphins and he’s a monster in space. If he played for Alabama last year he’d be considered a tier 1 RB.

[–]patrickg328_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Watch the no huddle Texas A&M - LSU game last year. Dude was coming off an injury and went 38-215-2 against a top defense in the country

[–]rydaley77 Giants 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Roschon or Tank, loving both in that tier. Id put Tyjae in there as well but the injury history concerns me.

Tank i think is my #1 in this tier cause i think he complements Etienne so well

[–]pot8odragon 20 points21 points  (46 children)

Rocshon just went 1.12 in my draft lol wtf

[–]Jrbowe 16 points17 points  (40 children)

Roschon got a decent landing spot, but I think people are underestimating how good Herbert has been (albeit in limited opportunities).

[–]pot8odragon 12 points13 points  (9 children)

I just think it’s a reach to take someone drafted in round 4 in the first round. Then again the back end of the first is very weird

[–]Devmurph18 0 points1 point  (8 children)

yes rb hit rate falls off a cliff after round 3

[–]PaulBlartFleshMall Eagles 7 points8 points  (0 children)

RB as a position is changing so much in the NFL though.

Just last year Veach said he could get a 1000 yard rusher after the 5th, then he got Pacheco in the 7th.

We might have to adapt.

[–]schindlerslisp 5 points6 points  (6 children)

pierce, allgeier, pacheco, rhamondre, elijah mitchell, herbert. just in the last two years.

not sure this “day 2 or bust” approach to drafting RBs will hold up.

[–]Devmurph18 3 points4 points  (1 child)

allgeier just got replaced after one year, mitchell is now back up to one of the best backs in the league, herbert has never started (as long as DM was healthy). There will obviously be outliers. I love rhamondre and think he has established himself. Pacheco seems to be in a good spot for now. Im just stating thats what the trend is currently showing and i think the players you mentioned help prove it

[–]dwaite1 Mr Big Chest 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How many of those guys have had multiple RB1 seasons. I get that there is value later but the odds aren’t in your favor. Getting a 50% chance at a multi-year starter is better than a dart throw on a 1 year guy.

[–]burnerboo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They all only have 1 or 2 years in the league each! Of course they don't have multiple seasons as RB1s. But I still see your point, I see multiple good/great seasons in only a few of those guys.

[–]steel-falcons 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Herbert was good in limited usage but as soon as Montgomery was healthy he went back to minimum work. I think signing two backs and drafting another shows you what they think of 6th rounder Herbert, he’s change of pace to them.

[–]the_ginge_1 10 points11 points  (23 children)

You’ve also got Foreman in the mix too. It’s an RBBC with Herbert and Foreman on early downs with RoJo getting 3rd down work due to his pass blocking acumen

[–]StraightBumSauce Werbenjägermanjensen 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Please don't refer to Roschon as RoJo

[–]dwaite1 Mr Big Chest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I called him RoJo to one of my league mates the other day and he thought I was crazy for drafting Ronald Jones haha

[–]the_ginge_1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sorry you getting PTSD flashbacks from RoJo 1.0?

[–]StraightBumSauce Werbenjägermanjensen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, just disrespectful to Roschon to make him share a nickname with that bum. Although I'm sure plenty of others are getting PTSD.

[–]steel-falcons 0 points1 point  (14 children)

I see this a lot, why is it a committee? Montgomery got the majority of the touches and neither Foreman(27 with major injury history) nor Herbert(6th round pick from the prior coaching staff) have inspiring athletic profiles. Coaching staff could be looking for a lead back, and they just drafted “their guy.”

[–]the_ginge_1 9 points10 points  (7 children)

It’s a committee until someone makes that backfield their own. Simple as. Herbert and Foreman have both looked decent at the NFL level. The question really should be Why do you think Roschon who’s been hidden behind Bijan in college is “their guy” who will have the backfield to himself? It’s not like they spent major draft capital on him, he’s a day three pick.

[–]steel-falcons -1 points0 points  (3 children)

He’s their guy because he was drafted in the 4th compared with to the 6th by another regime and Foreman’s almost vet minimum deal. He’s getting like 2M guaranteed, and I think you made my point for me… the only reason he didn’t have more production was behind the best RB in all of college football. If you watch his tape he’s a bruiser with great YAC, plus more wiggle than you might think (even jumped a few guys and took a few passes to the house). He profiles as the new Montgomery. IMO he’s Charbonnet light, with a comparable profile to Josh Jacobs who also had weak college production but admittedly was way overdrafted.

Also looked decent? Foreman had 3 top 12RB weeks last year and Herbert had 1. Those guys are easily surpassed.

[–]benigntugboat -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Herbert's already made it his own

[–]steel-falcons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That one game?

[–]Advisor-Away 2 points3 points  (0 children)


[–]benigntugboat 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Herbert was sig ificantly more efficient than montgomery last year. I really think its the same situation as pollard was in with zeke. The team was invested, lives the oass protection, and was squeezing everything they could out of the vet in their last year on the team. But its herberts backfield now.

[–]steel-falcons 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Dude had more than 50% of snaps twice. I’m sorry, not ready to say he’s Tony Pollard since he doesn’t catch passes. Doesn’t feel like he’s taken over anything, and also since when do coaches blindly follow YPC? Jaylen Warren wants to know.

[–]benigntugboat -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Montgomerys literally not on the team anymore. Roschon wasnt drafted very high, and d'onta foreman isn't a feature back. Herberts the clearn #1 in that room until proven otherwise. I get the skepticism if we were in the middle of last season and I understand if someones high on roschon. But the teams plan is clearly 5o go with herbert. They have the cap space if they werent confident in him.

[–]FieldsFanclub Bears -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Do people not understand this is dynasty? Foreman will be there for 1 year and Herbert struggles with blocking so Roschon definitely has a shot at being RB1 in the future

Edit: You people obviously don’t know anything about the Bears lmaooooo

[–]the_ginge_1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely understand this is dynasty. I also understand that once foreman is out of contract they will sign or draft someone else. Sure he has a shot at being an RB1 at some point if he comes in and balls out. But that’s true of every single rookie.

[–]Talkthatish -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Part of understanding it’s dynasty is understanding they will likely draft someone with better capital next year.

[–]steel-falcons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, but he produces this year and you sell him at the deadline or right after the season. Or he gets the Rhamondre treatment.

[–]tjdibs22 Lions 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He can’t pass protect….. so his role will be the sane

[–]BrewTheBig1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Herbert can’t pass block. Protecting Fields is the main priority of the Bears this season, so Herbert won’t see the field except for a handful of downs. Roschon will be the man in the backfield by the end of the season

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My thoughts exactly. I dont just see them moving on from Herbert for RJ (not Ronald Jones).

[–]NautMyName 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This staff has no ties to Herbert. RJ is the guy they hand picked. It may not be right away, but Herbert can't block.

[–]Indy-Gator Packers 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just went 10 in mine…it’s either brilliant or insane

[–]MrKoko420 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've got the 10 and I'm seriously considering grabbing him

[–]Dischucker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I got him at 3.04 and was thrilled

[–]NautMyName -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It was probably me.

[–]steel-falcons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love RJ but he belongs in the mid second round behind most of the R2 WRs.

[–]Big_Wy Giants 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Tyjae has some of the best film in this class. King Henry won't be around forever and I don't buy all these injury reports. The Titans wouldn't have taken him in the 3rd if he's not going to be around long. Also, watch him last season. He's cutting just fine on that knee. Buy the dip.

[–]lovewasher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tyjae has no cartilage in his knee and there’s historically been other RB’s who’ve successfully played into their 30’s

EDIT: also “buy the dip”?? He’s still overpriced

[–]larryshomework00 12 points13 points  (7 children)

I'm torn between Roschon or Tank if they're there at 2.07

[–]nasri08 Panthers 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Tank easily. He’s day 2 vs RJ day 3, better production in college, less competition for touches, and a clear role.

[–]JLifts780 Browns 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Day 2>Day 3 even though Bigsby is blocked

[–]icetothepotluck 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I hear the day 2 vs. day 3 argument as a THE single reason people lean one player vs. another and listened to an analysis the other day in limited cases this should be the call but much like we do with putting players in tiers we should start doing the same with draft capital and I tend to agree. He argued that outside of the contract control nuance (4th vs 4th yr options) that players drafted pick 20 (late first) to pick 50 essentially have same hit rate when evaluated in totality and this carries over to late 2nd early 3rd picks as well in terms of tiers. The basic premise was don’t over value the perceived gap in 20-30 draft slots as team scheme/need has a ton of weight in teams selecting certain players to fit that scheme. I am going start looking at how this plays out and start seeing if the correlations start to stick if I start looking at tiers of picks (eg +/- 30 picks) vs. just straight draft capital and see if this helps me find more of the Pierce and Rhamondres, not sure if it will make a difference but I’m guilty as the rest of us by at times just being lazy and going with the guy who has higher capital when in reality that capital might only be 10-12 pick difference. Seems like a more nuanced way to approach it when decisions are close.

[–]TheEternalWitness[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have done the analysis of draft capital hit rate myself and I have to say it generally agrees with you. In this case:

Tank Bigsby - Pick 88, 44.3% chance to hit an RB2 season in his career 22.3% to hit an RB1 season


Roschon Johnson - Pick 115, 32% chance to hit an RB2 season 14.68% to hit an RB1 season

There is definitely a gap but at the end of the day the upside is not too far apart (22% vs 15%) if you strongly believe one way Id say get ur guy

[–]tankfortua20 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I think it's Roschon. Has a clear path to taking over the backfield + if ETN gets hurt I could the Jags throwing it 40+ times a game with Lawerence and those weapons.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dang this guy even has Tank in his name and wants Roschon lol

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the narrative on this sub but y’all forget that Justin Fields is Chicago’s RB1 and Herbert is going to get a decent chunk of touches (albeit not in the bell cow roll). I just don’t think it leaves enough carries for Rochon to be a great fantasy player even if he is stellar irl

[–]Se7enkb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Spears. I can’t stop watching his film. The kid is unreal.

[–]RG221987 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Tank bigsby and Roschon for tier 3. I have tank slightly higher because of draft capital. Don't sleep on Eric gray either, reminds me a bit of Ahmad Bradshaw.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree - especially on Eric Gray as a late third flier.

[–]quercusss 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I’m getting higher and higher on Chase Brown. He has a decent mix of situation and talent — there’s a non-zero chance Mixon isn’t on this roster come week 1 and Brown looks like Perine with more juice. There could be a lot of meat on that bone if Brown does well in camp over the summer, and I think you will see that ADP rise the closer we get to week 1

[–]aMaizeNblue20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude was a stud last year at Illinois. Seems to be slept on but I want as many shares as I can especially because you can get him late

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just got this guy at 3.05 in a 14T SF. Yeah, fifth round capital sucks and he can be a little stiff at times, but he looks the part.

[–]Jahmyr Lions 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deneric Prince

[–]el_pobbster Jags 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Achane, man, Achane. The fit between team and player just seems to be such a perfect match. It feels like one of those "I'll do a change of mind on a prospect based on draft landing spot" kind of picks I have a hard time not taking.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it happens, it happens. I dont see it happening though for him even in Miami.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Betting on the extreme outlier?

[–]Fred-ditor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, if miller had run at the combine he would have been talked about (and probably drafted) like charbonnet.

Charbonnet was considered a pretty boring upright runner who was in the conversation with Tucker Miller and Evans before the world soured on Evans and tucker's medicals became the big scandal. Charbonnet had an ok combine but not amazing. He's got a chance to be the lead rb on a running team, especially with receiving and touchdowns factored in, but he's in a difficult backfield for 3 years minimum.

Miller didn't run because he was still recovering from the mcl that kept him out of the national championship game. (That could have been an excuse, but it's a pretty good excuse)

That doesn't mean miller is better than charbonnet, but he was the next back drafted after charb, went to a situation where he'll have a chance to establish himself as a rookie (assuming some kind of suspension) and where he could become the lead rb long term. He's also 20 right now.

To me, those two are clearly a tier above.

Achane has high upside for any given game and could have a blow up season or two but think of him like a Shanahan running back. It's not hard to imagine Miami moving on to the next guy when he's hurt.

Tyjae won't start as a rookie unless Henry gets hurt. He might have a role but it won't be the touchdown scoring half and he's going to have to be good in pass protection to get enough receiving work to be fantasy relevant in a timeshare. He might have a larger opportunity in year 2 but he's a ticking time bomb. So even if you believe in him you've got a narrow window to get paid off for the gamble.

Roschon has the best chance to be a feature back but he's also starting out in a 3 headed monster backfield and he's been pretty successful on a backup role in college. Maybe they're looking for him to stay in that kind of role. Maybe he's so good he takes over. I think between the draft capital and the situation, the chances of him reaching his upside are pretty low but he is a good player and could have a couple rb2/rb3 years even if he's not a smash success.

In most leagues I'd go

  • Kendre
  • Charbonnet
  • - tier break -
  • achane
  • roschon
  • tyjae

And I might even sneak Zach evans into that lower tier.

[–]surfingwithgators 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I see no one likes Bigsby, huh. I think he will take significant work from Etienne

[–]MelfromMilwaukie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m like Bigsby and drafted him at 2.04.

[–]El_DeRpo838 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like him enough to take him at the 2.05

[–]NautMyName 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's Roschon for me. Obviously, being a Bears fan plays into it a bit for me. But the fact that he's good in pass protection, he should see the field a lot. I think by mid-season, he'll be in the Monty role. Not to mention, the Bears are one of the best run blocking teams in the league.

[–]The_Power_Toad 2 points3 points  (4 children)

In my SF rookie draft it went

1.12 Achane

2.1 Kendre

2.2 Charbs (me)

2.3 Spears

Roschon and tank went late second. Chase brown went mid 3rd.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I like this for you

[–]Dude-bruh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I haven’t seen Charbs make it the 2nd yet

[–]LukeBombs 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I’m a full blown Tulane homer, but for the purposes of this question, Spears is my mf DAWG and he IS going to produce in the NFL once given carries. Shady McCoy 2.0– and Henry is probably gone next year.

The injury stuff is super unfortunate, but we knew RB lifespans are short. 3-5 years in the league for Spears will be enough for him to produce well

[–]Yeti83 Browns 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Spears would be my third rated rb if not for the cartilage. If you are a team ready to compete in the next couple years I think he is a must add.

[–]tankfortua20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea I mean there is a chance Henry comes back on a team friendly deal in 2024 or they draft another rb.

[–]JnDConstruction1984 8 points9 points  (2 children)

For some reason those injuries are giving me jay ajayi vibes but I soo badly wana be wrong.

[–]LukeBombs 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You say Jay Ajayi, I say Todd Gurley lol

[–]JnDConstruction1984 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If he has a gurley arc I’ll buy those three elite seasons all day at his current adp lol

[–]math_pun_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)


[–]yourmeshugana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Such a better nickname

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Would I be crazy to put Tank Bigsby here at the top? I have ETN and want to hedge bets but I still see some Nick Chubb in him.

[–]BK_Randy95 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I wanted to grab Tank to compliment my ETN at 2.12, but Miller fell to me there, so obviously I had to take him (especially because I have Kamara too)

I think Tank is a great grab though if you have ETN

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing value with Miller and I bought back into the second to get Tank for that exact reason (I own ETN). Roschon Johnson is still there right now at 2.10 so Im trying to buy back in again bc why not.

[–]f3hdp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like McBride depending on what happens with Cook.

[–]Pokeman49 Lions 1 point2 points  (0 children)


[–]diamante81710T/SF/.5PPR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Achane (maybe tier 2), Roschon, Bigsby, Vaughn, spears

[–]DouglasButler 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Tank Bigsby

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All aboard the Bigsby express!

[–]mossed2012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t be shocked if DeWayne McBride gets some solid carries this year.

[–]pocha444444 3 points4 points  (1 child)

People that are completely out on Achane because he weighed 188 but love Gibbs and have him tier 1 at 199 are funny to me.

[–]likesexonlycheaper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People are out on Gibbs and in on players at 110. 10lbs makes a big difference in the NFL and 20lbs makes a huge difference.

[–]shwrealtor 3 points4 points  (16 children)

I get why Achane is exciting. But, people are really not taking into account that guys at his size don’t succeed in the NFL.

[–]Jrbowe 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I don’t have confidence that Achane will be a long term RB1, but both he & McDaniel are good enough that I think they will carve out a consistent PPR RB2 type role for him on maybe 12ish touches per game in Miami’s offense.

[–]shwrealtor -4 points-3 points  (10 children)

Not one RBweighed less than 201 finished in the top 24 last year. There is a reason for this

[–]I_HateToSayAtodaso 8 points9 points  (9 children)

Ekeler is listed at 200 and was the #1 back in fantasy in most formats.

[–]tankfortua20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think at best he has a McKinnon type role in the offense. He is going to have some big td runs or catches and ppl will get hyped

He is a boom or bust flex imo

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey now I took this into account. The pitchforks are out bc I didnt have him up tier 2 lol

[–]jf737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends how you’re built. I was dismissive of him as well based purely on size. Then I really watched his film. He’s a tough dude. He’s not built like a Tutu Atwell type. He’s a little thicker. I was surprised at how many tackles he breaks. Best comp I’ve seen: Warrick Dunn. And Dunn was actually lighter coming out of FSU

[–]ramblingawkwardteen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jamaal Charles had the same BMI as Achane and Chris Johnson had an even lower BMI. So that's at least two examples of guys his size having success.

[–]chriisLoL Bengals 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Achane could be tier 2 as well. Landing + draft cap. Has the same frame and speed as Chris Johnson.

[–]shwrealtor 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Lol Chris Johnson was almost 20 lbs heavier.

[–]pocha444444 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's quite the exaggeration. Johnson weighed 9 more lbs at the combine.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chris Johnson was almost a full tenth faster in the 40, 10 lbs heavier at combine, and 2 inches taller.

The fuck you talking about?

[–]428291151 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same size as Ahmad Bradshaw.

[–]cam-pbells 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Charbonnet, Achane, Johnson and Miller are all in the same meh tier for me.

[–]ProfessionalTitle594 Packers 1 point2 points  (5 children)

No love for Izzy??

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Love the profile, hate the draft capital and the landing spot.

[–]jramirez2321 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Bruh let me tell you, as jets fan I had absolutely no idea how to react to them drafting him lol I’m thrilled of course but I would’ve reached for that dude hard if he landed in a good situation

[–]crillc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Jets fan too: I think it indicates Hall is gunna take a little longer to return than most expect. Between, Izzy and Carter they can hold down the run game and keep Breece fresh for the playoff run.

[–]Wild_Bill_Kickcock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You mean between Bam and Izzy

[–]ProfessionalTitle594 Packers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hoping he can make an impact while Hall starts the season on a “pitch count”

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chase Brown because Mixon is absolute dog water.

[–]tjdibs22 Lions 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Achane situation screams crush mode. I’d put him ahead of charb and Kendre

[–]tjdibs22 Lions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also Roschon over rise 2 as well

[–]jackattack0209 Jags 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I took Achane at 1.09 over both Charbs and Miller AMA

[–]finished_lurking 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Why you do that?

[–]jackattack0209 Jags 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because I think Achane is the best of the three, pre draft Achane was my 1.3 just off the tape and post-draft I like him even more..

I think Miami is the best possible landing spot to utilize his skill set.

[–]Sincitystrangler -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Achane is in that tier above Kendre. Next tier is Johnson and tank for me.

[–]WhiteLightning416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Charbs is blocked by KW3, so to me he’s behind Achane and Miller in that 2nd tier.

3rd tier is tough, but think I’d lean Roschon Johnson.

[–]Lumpy_Chillichubin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just drafted Gibbs at 1.04, Achane at 2.04 and Miller at 2.05. If Miller is in the 2nd tier, I definitely believe that Achane is there too, and a spot above him. Other tier 3's in my mind: Roschon, Spears, and Ibanikanda.

[–]Lumpy_Chillichubin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Tank.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spears will be a great shotgun set back to route in with Henry. I can see Vabrel using spears a lot in ppr. Like when the patriots had white out of the backfield and did the shot gun set while blunt did the dirty work. Especially with the Titans trying to save henry for the playoffs. But if they lose early like 0-3 I can see Henry getting traded and them going straight rebuild whch means spears goes to number 1 back with will Levis slinging it to dive for Marvin Harrison Jr.

[–]harrisdevon048 Chiefs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would move Miller down a tier and Achane up in 2. For me the top of tier three are Roschon, Spears, and Miller.

[–]Uofoducks15 49ers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it crazy to take charbs or achane at 6 over presumably flowers in 1QB? Flowers could def pop and has the draft capital but Baltimore is Baltimore. I also might have a deal on the table to move 2.03 or 2.03 with 1.06 to get to 1.04 and take Addison.

I am also adding JSN and Gibbs and have 2.02 and 2.03 as well.

Rb depth is Chubb dobbins Kamara and then falls off a cliff. (Latavius Perine strong Haskins)

Wr depth is Adams, DK, London, DJM, Pickens, juju, Mooney, M.Thomas.

Not entirely sure what to do at 6

[–]atschill Buccaneers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Johnson. So much meh.

[–]No-Sport276 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chase Brown is my 4th guy. He’s got a great situation with Mixons legal issues/cap hit making him expendable. Might not be an impact right away but being the staring RB after this year is a real possibility

[–]shirey12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like many others have said, Achane is in tier 2. I’m leaning Charb, Achane, Miller, in that order, but Achane/Miller is neck and neck. Tier 3 is a relatively small drop, and I’m have it as:

  1. Bigsby
  2. Spears
  3. Roschon

Tank is the best prospect here, and even though ETN is the starter, I’m of the opinion that he is massively overrated. ETN is an explosive player, but he has major flaws in his game and I think Tank has an immediate role out of the gate, with a chance for more if the coaching staff (who didn’t select him) become disillusioned with ETN’s boom/bust play style.

Spears has talent, and a path to serious work as soon as ‘24, but those dang knees are terrifying. His size is also less than ideal. I’m hedging here at 7, and if I take him, I’m selling as soon as any possible value jump occurs.

Roschon is an interesting case. There’s a path to him being value brand David Montgomery, but he also could be a career special teamer who gets some passing down work ala Brandon Bolden in NE. The special teams work is a red flag imo. People talk about it like it’s a plus, which it is for helping him just secure and maintain a roster spot, but for fantasy I don’t like the fact that he only got 4th round capital and a significant reason for that was potential usage that has no fantasy relevance. If he didn’t have the special teams experience, does he go a round or two even later in the draft?

Chase Brown is at the top of that next tier, which are pure flyers and a big drop from tier 3.

[–]Sinnycalguy 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Really wish Roschon would’ve gotten day two capital so whatever success he has this season would feel less tenuous moving forward, but the landing spot is great and he strikes me as the type of player who earns a heavy workload because coaches fall in love with all the little things he does well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I like Roschon, but he's above average at everything and not great at anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bigsby but most will take roschon next. Roschon has a good chance to start

[–]darwinian-rock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roschon and Chase Brown have the best chance at being starters

[–]maguire_21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Devone Achane is definitely in tier 2

[–]Jmclay68112T/1QB/PPR 0 points1 point  (3 children)

My draft is in a few hours and I’m really considering reaching for Chase Brown at 2.04 (my first pick). Is that too early? Really don’t see him still being on the board at 3.05 (my next pick).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think thats too early. If its a long draft, hold your pick time and see if you can trade for someones late second if Chase Brown is your guy.

[–]Dude-bruh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try to trade down, otherwise get your guy.

[–]lovewasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ITT: Every RB

[–]vbullinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roschon and Tank.

They both are probably going to walk into a serious committee role and be heavily utilized as a grinder, 1st and 2nd down back.

[–]DemonDeacon86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took Achane at 2.01 over Miller... I really like Miller tbh, but with that speed in Miami. I went Achane. We'll see how it works out lol

[–]Bapabooi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know there’s issues and worries with Tank but I think he runs hard as hell and could be a solid part of a comittee. Got him at 3.02 in my league and couldn’t be happier with the pick.

[–]zingping67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tank evans and Tucker I’m grabbing wherever I can where they are being drafted now

[–]PregnantManVirus 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]maxberglind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roschon babyyyyy

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I took Johnson at 2.09 in superflex and i feel good about it

[–]Forward-Historian688 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Achane > Miller