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[–]vespaking 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Surprised there was nothing about this in the Air Force leaked documents .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too bad it’s all just a psyop.

[–]sofakingWTD -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At least one of these was pretty much confirmed to be a harmless science project. Feeling thankful that nobody wasted $400k shooting down my 3rd graders' project... https://youtu.be/r52j91aWZSU

[–]tressforsuccess 3 points4 points  (5 children)

The most concerning thing is that a few days after congressional briefing and the day the president made a press statement, a congressman checked into a mental hospital.

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Are u joking or trolling? Do u realize that he had a stroke recently? Do u realize that one of the side effects after having a stroke is depression?

I get it. Some people need to type things to feel important or smart, but don't do that. There's no correlation between his stroke and the briefings. Political world is a stressful environment. There's a reason y people like u are not in charge of anything and people like him are in office.

[–]NoBreadfruit69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man look where you are posting

[–]maersdet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was this Congressman in the hearing? Have a name?

[–]arlmwl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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That's interesting for sure. Maybe related, maybe not.

[–]Anon187 -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinese-spy-balloons-skys-limit

Read this and tell me you think it’s aliens. He we are an ancient civilization that can neutralize nuclear weapons and travel at light speed but can dodge your missiles. Fucking people are idiots. Goodbye disclosure. Goodbye contact. The population is still too fucking dumb

[–]bilboteabaggins77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How come you know so much about this ancient civilisation lol

[–]Key-Cry-8570 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not saying it’s aliens, odds are it will be something simple. But it seems pretty ignorant and self affirming to believe that any objects sent from some advanced civilization would be armored up its ass to be invincible. When we send satellites into space, or rovers to mars they could be easily destroyed by rocks. We don’t send Abrams tanks to explore mars, we send scientific defenseless probes. I’m sure economics and common logic is the same for all civilizations why send a tank, when a golf cart can do the same job. And for all we know there could be advanced societies out there that have no concept of war, so they’ve never developed advanced armored combat vehicles to defend themselves. It’s reminds me of people that say it’s impossible for there to be life out there in the universe, that somehow Earth is special and the only place that spawned intelligent life in an infinite universe. 🧐

[–]Alert_Two5615 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's the nazis. Hitlers clone and his Thule finally decided to come out of hiding admist the possibility of a 3rd world War.

[–]amkhz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This could be something, could be nothing. I think there are at least 7 P-8 aircraft up and down the eastern coast. Some searching off the coast of Florida. This is more plane spotting than UFO, but perhaps they are looking fervently for something.

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[–]Professional-Quit803 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude I was just in Jacksonville this morning and couldn’t help but notice how many planes and “smoke” trails I kept seeing. Definitely something weird going on in that area.

[–]Disastrous_Tea_1229 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Will the public ever know what is happening, I hope they keep the Bible out of this!

[–]Ataraxic_Animator 7 points8 points  (3 children)

UAP Takedown Debris: Not Offered Because Non-Existant?

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Government, being cornered, and habituated by generations of institutionalized, habitual lying with regard to this topic, is in disaster-mitigation mode with an urgency it hasn't faced since 9/11.

Is it possible that there is no evidence of debris, because there is no debris?

What if they scored a direct hit and the UAP just lazily moved off to the polar cap, for example? Or ascended to an unreachable altitude?

We must consider these possibilities because the government has offered nothing in the way of footage, visuals, infrared, satellite investigation, telemetry, etc., and just a bare handful of near useless verbal descriptions.

They control satellites that can read a newspaper from space, and they can't find black solid debris on white snow and ice.

[–]pf30146788e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s been like 3 days. Give them a second to look around.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To be fair we don't know the debris is black, and snow isn't a solid. Something falling from a considerable hight can be buried in the snow upon impact pretty deep, it wouldn't just land on the top. I'm no where near the Arctic circle and there is about 2-4 feet of snow in my area.

[–]Ataraxic_Animator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do know the debris is black because the government described the object explicitly as metallic black.

Regarding the snow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA0C4GV3_I

[–]RealAkumaryu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting interview with Ross Coulthart https://twitter.com/i/status/1625398603433881602

[–]RealAkumaryu 11 points12 points  (6 children)

It´s ridicilous how the subject turned in the news from constant live coverage to almost zero. While we have 4 objects being shutdown & a Trillion $ machinery like the US military is not able to retrieve debris? Tracked the slow moving objects w.o. ANY footage?

I am a US American living in Germany and observing the media behavior and how quickly the people follow these narratives is beyond my belief. I never thought that the govt. would get away that easy with the recent events.

The only thing that I think will counter that is that I believe we will have much more incidents - in one or the other way, this year and I am sure there are more people now who pay attention to the skies. Unless the next days and the briefings make a u-turn these incidents will be waved off as spectacular but harmless events.

[–]Jackie_Esq 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I can't figure out why they are shooting down "balloons" with missiles.

The last I heard is that the objects are being shot down because they could interfere with planes because they fly in that same attitude but the objects are about the same size as weather balloon that also travels in that attitude and need no special authorization.

If the government does not know what they are, capture one of them. That would prove the most value.

How could you capture one?

[–]SwanBridge 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'd be extremely interested about the logistics of capturing a flying object.

Do you put a huge net behind a plane and scope it up?

Do you send a C-130, get behind the object, open the hatch, and slow down significantly so you can get it inside the cargo bay?

Any aviation heads know if it is feasible to capture a flying object?

[–]Jackie_Esq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking you send another balloon up to catch it. That would be fun to watch.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the government hasn't told the press anything new, so there is nothing new to report on.

[–]MerlotSoul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been thinking the same thing. Just days ago we shot things out of our airspace… and now there’s silence. No matter what it was or where it came from it’s alarming.

[–]Sullyfendi 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Why is that we have these planes with every modern technology but no cameras to have a look is puzzling?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh they have cameras.

[–]bongloadsforjesus 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I’d guess the pictures are classified. They have teams of people who edit out certain Information from military cameras (like sensor data and info on capabilities) before they can be shown to the public. If they are going to release anything, it won’t be until that occurs

[–]pf30146788e 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They would be as it discloses our capabilities if released.

[–]SoluteGains 3 points4 points  (2 children)

They could redact that information in less than 5 minutes. The decision has been made not to share images / video they have. If we ever find out the truth, it won't be from the government.

[–]Sullyfendi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely my take on it.

[–]bongloadsforjesus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a longer process than that - they have to scrub anything from the footage that implies anything about our capabilities. They would have to think about everything that could be extrapolated from the footage, including sensor readings, angles, levels of zoom, speed, maneuverability…it’s a long list.

I fully believe they’re going to keep a lot of this secret from the public, but I don’t think we can jump to conclusions just because they haven’t released the footage. They’re probably still analyzing it themselves.

Releasing it to the public means every other country has access to the footage too, and they probably don’t want to give that info up just yet

[–]djkeithers 6 points7 points  (8 children)

I'm finding it odd that it was supposedly unmanned and had no propulsion yet a highly skilled military aircraft missed it on the first shot with a missile?! Does that mean that this thing maneuvered out of the way?

[–]curiousinquirer007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, heat-seeking missiles are designed to hit fast-moving, heat/IR-energy-emitting large metallic aircraft, not small slowly floating cold balloons

[–]GoldenSageBondi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i saw somewhere that some electronics systems were acting up, but only with some planes and not others. could've been this.

[–]Accurate-Grass3818 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It was the pilot’s first day

[–]djkeithers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. I read that those things cost like 400k per missile. No worries just load up another and raise taxes again

[–]El_scauno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Either that or the guidance sistem on the rocket failed

[–]HeinzPinkman 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Been away from civilization for a few days, but highly interested in the topic. Unfortunately on the road now for several hours, so I won’t be able to read through the articles... can anyone provide me an informative podcast about it?

[–]Xenogunter 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The US military budget for 2023 is $1.9T. That’s 1,900 billions.

Are we supposed to believe they can’t take a photo of a “benign balloon” floating in the air?

Utter nonsense.

[–]SoluteGains 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They aren't balloons.

[–]Loz41333 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I thought it was more in the 650 billion ballpark? 1.9 trillion sounds ridiculously excessive even by American standards.

[–]Xenogunter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My bad.. I was looking at the Biden stimulus package for Covid.

The military budget is a paltry $819B. ...I guess that's why we can't give a pilot a new iphone to take a decent photo.

[–]m0rningview420 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I hope they shoot another one down soon

[–]Shot_Boot_7279 5 points6 points  (2 children)

They will but now they won’t tell us.

[–]m0rningview420 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Cmon government you can tell me, I’m a trustworthy guy

[–]ipassforhuman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh sure you are "m0rningview420"

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this guy knows more than reddit shit posters stating they are balloons lol.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/boston-expert-says-recent-flying-objects-shot-down-by-us-could-be-adversarial/

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

There is air force/CIA disinfo in this sub. Intelligence agents are super active on Reddit. There was a big post with examples, a few weeks ago.

[–]---M0NK--- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Id love to see that

[–]F0064R 11 points12 points  (11 children)

Has the US said whether they've recovered the Huron debris? Seems like it would be the easiest of all the locations.

[–]Xenogunter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We should label one of the debris "Trump's Classified Documents" and another "Hunter Biden's Laptop".

Both would be found within the hour.

[–]Bitter_Coach_8138 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably easiest to find, maybe not easiest to actually collect.

[–]intersecting_lines 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Canadian coast guard has been flying up and down all day. US has a SAR vessel in the waters too

I would tend to agree that it's the easiest of the 3 to collect. That just lends itself to how difficult it is to retrieve any of these 3 objects. And I would give it a few days before pointing to "cover-up" like a lot in this thread are doing

Lake Huron is enormous and deep, one is in mountains in the Yukon, and one is literally so far north, the only place more north is the north pole. It has only been less than 4 days since the Alaska incident and 48 hours since Lake Huron.

I know the uncertainty and secrecy around this is really making people unnerved but IMO not collecting the debris yet is not the shocking in the least to me

[–]Kusakaru 7 points8 points  (3 children)

The thing with the Alaskan debris is that it was shot down over ice and we know the general area we shot it down. The debris should be very visible against the white of the ice and no vegetation in the way. I’m confused as to how they can’t find it.

[–]greg0525 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They have already found and collected it, long ago, I think.

[–]Kusakaru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When? I have not seen anything about that.

[–]SabineRitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on how smooth the ice surface is, maybe

[–]Bells_and_booch69 5 points6 points  (3 children)

They state they may never recover it. Quite a change in tune.

[–]wahoosjw 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Which is ridiculous. They should have footage, and coordinates of the location of the takedown. If it is a "commercial balloon" much of it should float. I can't believe that it's irrecoverable

[–]Bells_and_booch69 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, how many times did they say it's on ice suggesting that it's recoverable. Now they've changed their minds for some reason!

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe they said they saw it shatter in the ice. Lol. They see it but can't collect it? Lol. Total bullshit.

[–]LGD94 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Romania’s airspace now: https://news.sky.com/story/romania-scrambles-fighter-jets-after-detecting-suspicious-weather-balloon-in-its-airspace-12810949 Romania scrambles fighter jets after detecting suspicious 'weather balloon' in its airspace

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Yup. And this is y I don't buy what the U.S. government is putting out there. They're seeing these things because they've adjusted their sensors? Lol. No. They've always been there and the fact that other parts of the world are reporting the same thing leads me to believe that world leaders can no longer control the narrative.

[–]ExoticCard 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sightings are increasing...

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes sir they are. I'm trying to keep up with all this but my head feels like it's about to explode. Perhaps I should not debate the shit posters anymore lol.

[–]Bitter_Coach_8138 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Except apparently Romanian jets couldn’t locate it after scrambling

[–]fuzzy_wizzle_nutz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened in Montana. They picked it up on radar and our jets couldnt find it.

[–]EarthInteresting9781 15 points16 points  (5 children)

I noticed the senator mentioning that this been happening a long time…he specifically mentioned the dates - 2017 and 2019 - are there any news articles that we dig up that can maybe refer to what he is talking about?

[–]thegrumpus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

2017 was the year the lue elizondo and co started their efforts to bring it the ufo conversation back into the mainstream. Most disclosure efforts we see today from that group started with the 2017 NYT article featuring elizondo talking about the secret ufo program he oversaw and how there are unexplainable things in our airspace

[–]Rearviewmirror1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

[–]InitialFabulous3747 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And let's be real, since 2017 is not a "long, long time." I found that odd.

[–]greg0525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he actually referred back to the ancient times.

[–]EmonOkari 7 points8 points  (12 children)

John Kirby to Katy Tur on MSNBC Live (3:45pm EST): The objects were most likely benign balloons of commercial origin, shot down in an 'abundance of caution'. In the coming days, they will be able to share more about these objects, and how they will process and monitor them in the future.

[–]ExoticCard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't tell me Lockheed was flying some secret reverse engineered technology...

[–]wahoosjw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Have they recovered debris? Has someone claimed them? What new info is pointing towards commercial balloons? What took them so long to say balloon and why are they now?

There's a lot of questions that need answers with this assertion

[–]d_happa 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The objects were most likely benign balloons of commercial origin, shot down in an 'abundance of caution'.

If these are indeed commercial entities, doesn't the US govt. have a responsibility to find who they were (including non US entities) and prosecute them legally, bring sanctions etc. ?

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Why did they have a classified briefing this morning about benign balloons? And wasn’t there a senator saying they were very worried about the lack of transparency experienced during the classified meeting?

[–]J_Babe87 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's what I was thinking. If things were all pointing towards harmless benign craft floating around, why brief all the senators?? Just adds more confusion to everything. None of this adds up at all.

[–]Purplepicklewind1234 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If I was Katy Tur I would have asked John Kirby if they have all Senator intelligence briefings on Party City balloons a lot

[–]barelyreadsenglish 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Comercial balloons at 20k and 40k feet that people just said fuck it let the military deal with it risking huge fines, there aren't any images of them so the public can come out and say yes I know who make those and they can't recover any. Sure.

[–]Purplepicklewind1234 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right? My neighbors the other weekend lost a big bundle of balloons for some party they had that day. Didn't see any jets from the naval base, literally down the street from us, launch to intercept it

[–]dinodebino 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Joe’s Restaurant let some birthday balloons fly too high? The size of a car?

[–]EmonOkari 5 points6 points  (0 children)

...over the Yukon.

[–]Purplepicklewind1234 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hell of an expensive way to accomplish that goal. The government just loves the balloon excuse huh?

[–]cerealsnax 5 points6 points  (7 children)

They definitely aren't US craft, and the fact that they aren't shooting them down more means they aren't foreign craft. So what's left?

[–]dayswing 2 points3 points  (6 children)

and the fact that they aren't shooting them down more means they aren't foreign craft

Why do you draw this conclusion?

[–]cerealsnax 0 points1 point  (5 children)

If they were foreign craft and we are just letting thousands of them fly around in our skies with no issue, that would be a huge issue.

[–]wahoosjw 1 point2 points  (4 children)

They literally shot them down though?

[–]cerealsnax -1 points0 points  (3 children)

And then they suddenly stopped, and admitted there were tons in the sky. Why stop?

[–]wahoosjw 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Give me a source where they say there are currently "tons" of these in our airspace

[–]cerealsnax 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The entire r/UFO right now, but specifically Senator Kennedy and what he said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/112aa4q/sen_kennedy_responds_after_classified_briefing/

He basically says:

These objects have been in our airspace for years…many years.

Everyone is OK with the fact that, for years, unidentified objects have been occupying our airspace, we are unable to locate the debris now that we’ve shot some down, and we should just accept that and not be concerned about a potential danger in our skies that we know nothing about.

[–]wahoosjw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There have been plenty of UAPs in our airspace for decades. It's a known fact and has been for a while. There are taskforces dedicated to studying them.

I don't think these objects are particularly interesting, and think USG is likely being pretty honest when they say they shot them down bc they were a danger to commercial flight.

I don't believe the Senators remarks meant that there are "tons" of these specific balloon things hovering at commercial cruising altitude as we speak. And I think that's why the take downs stopped

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"We will be seeing more information on this topic later this week" -Karine Jean-Pierre

we will see about that

[–]yannickrb 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Something to think about: if these objects are man made, from a foreign country and hover around commercial airspace they appear to be a security threat, an even bigger threat if they are spy technology. So with hundreds of reported sightings of these objects in question we should see the USAF intercepting them on a daily base with there radars adjusted.

But if we don’t (what I strongly believe) they are definitely Not from an foreign country, and they seem to be from the US neither (otherwise they wouldn’t be taken down - not a single take down in NORADS history before).

In conclusion I think they are indeed extra terrestrial, if we don’t see more interceptions by now.

Excuse my bad English, I’m from Germany.

[–]SabineRitter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your English is great 👍 and I agree with you

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I've had a casual interest in UFOs for a while but this is a mind bending series of events.

Even if it's not aliens, magic super-tech or an expensive practical joke; there's somthing frustrating about the most funded organizations on earth saying they don't know what occupies their airspace or that they spent a good few million to shoot down.

Extraterrestrial life should be the least existential issue in this whole situation.

[–]Witty-Bid1612 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You expressed perfectly how I feel -- will just add that it's interesting they're reporting on it now, however lightly. I feel like in the past it would've been completely hushed up. Is it because of the Pentagon task force being "out and open" now? It's almost worse; not sure what the heck to make of it all.

[–]C0RPSEGRINDER666 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Press Briefing Summary: "I just don't have anything to share" "I don't want to get ahead of anything"

[–]greg0525 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How arrogant, by the way.

[–]adarkuccio 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I'm expecting this ufo/balloons hunt to slow down in the coming days, maybe now they took care of all they found and that's it.

[–]vulcan7200 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I'm thinking. As other news worthy events take place the Government will be able to slowly let this fade into irrelevance releasing "findings" stating that it was nothing to worry about in the first place so stop asking questions.

[–]sonofalovinduck 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Wtf was that senators “lock your doors tonight” comment about lmao

[–]JayR_97 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Seems like he definitely heard something that freaked him out.

[–]ConicalHonker 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Let me preface this comment by saying that I am a skeptic on this subject and always try to keep an open mind. I want to believe but I also don’t want to have to believe, if you catch my drift.

Like many of you I was first introduced to this topic through the 2017 NYT article and still find that reporting to be among the finest, most credible I have seen on the subject.

The past few days have been absolutely wild and I’m hoping that we are able to get some answers as to what exactly is going on, whether it be terrestrial or extraterrestrial.

When entertaining the extraterrestrial hypothesis, I think it is very important to note that the burden of proof is likely much, much higher from a governmental perspective. The fact that the government isn’t outright denying these are extraterrestrial in origin has me extremely curious as that seems like it would be among the first things that could be ruled out.

Anyway, I’m just very excited to see where this takes us and I’m happy to see this subject being talked seriously and with less and less condescension everyday. Thanks for all of the fun banter and analysis on the sub, these are indeed interesting and exciting times regardless of the outcome!

[–]SoluteGains 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The White House Press secretary did outright deny that these are extra terrestrial... Of course no follow up question asking how she knows that.

[–]EmonOkari 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Sen. Coons to Katy Tur on MSNBC Live (3:10pm EST): "The three objects were not national security threats. They were shot down in an 'abundance of caution'."

[–]vulcan7200 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Them claiming they're not security threats, while saying "We don't know what they are, who made them, and what they were doing" is just silly. I fully believe they shot them down in an "abundance of caution". We're not questioning why they were shot down in the first place. We're questioning WHAT did they shoot down.

[–]muffpatty 5 points6 points  (2 children)

This is what makes no sense. We don't know what it is, but we know it isn't a threat. Even though it isn't a threat, we will make a huge show for force and shoot them down. Again, no threat.

[–]starhawks -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Are you aware of what "abundance of caution" means?

[–]OriginalRelief4836 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Has the White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre always this weird uncomfortable and something hiding type of body language ?

[–]atxdevdude 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Every White House press secretary is like that, they lie for a living regardless of who is in office that’s their job

[–]My_Penbroke 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Nah man Jen Psaki was cold as ice. She could brief me any day, fwiw.

[–]Easee99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“We will have to circle back to that” literally every press secretary in the same words or others. Dodge questions and talk in circles

[–]sumredditaccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hold up... (same)

[–]Atlas070 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Are they really just not going to tell us anything about these objects after making such a big deal out of shooting them down? This is all so weird.

[–]mortgagesblow 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This is 100% slow-drip. We have been exposed just a tiny bit more to reality (similar to the congressional hearing last year, and the leaked footage from a few years prior).

Expect something new, and slightly-more-damning in the next year or 2. This is all by design.

[–]Atlas070 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you're right

[–]Warped_Mindless 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Correct. You will hear less and less about it until eventually no one speaks of it and we will still have no more information than we do right now. A year from now very few people will even remember anything about it.

[–]Atlas070 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the vibe I'm getting

[–]muffpatty 16 points17 points  (2 children)

r/UFOs never forgets.

[–]ExoticCard 4 points5 points  (1 child)

In fact, we are growing due to this. Imagine how many members of the general public have shifted views on UAP due to this.

[–]muffpatty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This place has been my quiet guilty pleasure for years. I can actually talk about it out loud now without getting crazy looks lol

[–]lambo227 26 points27 points  (2 children)

“Could be for commercial or research purposes” “Have any companies reached out and said that these objects are theirs?” “No” 🤨

[–]mciaccio1984 9 points10 points  (1 child)

No companies or countries are claiming these things. China straight up admitted the balloon was theirs. But not a soul is claiming the other three objects shot down. They really think we the people are this stupid.

[–]vulcan7200 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And one of the reports asked a very good question about if maybe someone isn't coming forward due to the legal troubles they'd be in, and the press secretary still just blew past that question with a "I'm not going to go into that". You would think if the US truly didn't know what these were, who made them, and what they were doing they'd be open to whoever owned them (Assuming commercial/research) coming to them in private and saying "Yes it was ours."

[–]Bitter_Coach_8138 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Russian planes intercepted off Alaska. I know that’s a semi frequent occurrence, but ballsy given the itchy trigger finger the USAF has at the moment. Wonder if they aren’t trying to get a look at the debris/search efforts up there themselves.

[–]greg0525 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Coz they want to put their hands on alien technology.

[–]n3ws4cc 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That is pretty nuts to be doing right now. Got a link for me?

[–]Bitter_Coach_8138 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t, it was a headline on fox news

[–]Poonce 9 points10 points  (16 children)

Wow, this press conference is so bad. her body language is so telling that she is trying to hide her lying. This is weird. (Initial impulsive comment).

Edited with more to the comment below.

After fully watching the conference, I believe her behaviors, fumbling for words and frustrations, are that she has not been briefed. Not so much that her behavior was lying, more that she knew she was going in blind to these types of questions and had frustrations over trying to answer them without giving any kind of answer. She came in with many distractions, cookies, valentines, etc.

As we all figured, nothing was answered, and they won't share due to security reasons.

[–]vulcan7200 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I actually don't think she knows that much. Why would they need to give her more information than what they want the public to know? It doesn't help them at all to fill her in on all of the details as her only job is talking to the American People about what they want us to know.

[–]Poonce 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also firmly agree that her script was what it was during this conference. She probably doesn't know much, and what she does know can't be shared, thus her fumbling and defensive stance.

[–]RealAkumaryu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

White House Briefing live, in case someone missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX6l3Htb1WI

[–]DirectorEast9555 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Russians admitted to collecting theirs. Nothing on it since though

[–]C0RPSEGRINDER666 0 points1 point  (3 children)

body language is telling. Every time Karine Jean-Pierre says there is nothing to worry about she blinks multiple times and her facial expression change.

[–]Modal_Window 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not everyone stares unblinkingly with a stone expression.

Her body language is fine.

[–]starhawks -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You people are hilarious. Maybe the blinking was a message sent in some kind of code too!!

[–]Attlely 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta love people coming in here and acting like assholes about speculation in a UFO subreddit. It’s fun! Lighten up!

[–]n3ws4cc 11 points12 points  (4 children)

She's good at answering a question with a lot of words that are not answering a question. Guess this press conference ain't it yet.

[–]PaperThoughts 4 points5 points  (1 child)

She’s authorized only to give the information she has said lol. What can she do?

[–]n3ws4cc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah nothing much. But shes good at it. Good for her.

[–]SirBrothers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. Watched about twenty seconds and I turned it off lol.

[–]muffpatty 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure that is in the job description. Lol

[–]absolutelynotagoblin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We want to keep you safe in airplanes, that's why we shot them down. But they're totally benign! Just... benign.... whatever-they-ares! Ha-ha! Valentines day everybody! Eat some cookies!

[–]Ikarus_Zer0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The last 24 hours have been very exciting.

I cant think of why they would say they can’t recover them. That leaves the door wide open for even the largest skeptics to say “you couldn’t shoot a balloon out of the sky?”. Why not just say “we have recovered some materials and they are on their way to be analyzed”. Even if they hadn’t found anything, admitting to finding nothing is way crazier. Showing nothing for all that money is making Me lean towards them telling the truth. “Yeah we gave it a go and it turns out everyone, we actually can’t shoot them down”, lock your doors kids.

[–]SaltyWihl 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can we conclude that noone have officaly managed to recover any debri at this time?

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

nope but we can conclude that somebody is definitely lying

The warplane was scrambled from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage. Gen Ryder said a significant amount of debris had been recovered so far. It was being loaded on to vessels and taken to "labs for subsequent analysis", he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64605447

[–]ExoticCard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck, I opened the article to see if you had mistaken this for the spy balloon debris.

You're right, they are lying