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Rules Update for 2022 (self.EarthPorn)

submitted by .soupyhands

Hi EarthPorn, thanks for checking out this post. It will be quick.

Here at EarthPorn its always been important to us that everyone gets a fair shot at posting. Over the years we have made rule adjustments when it seemed necessary in order to achieve balance and fairness, such as when non-OC posts were restricted to once per day in order to give OC a chance to shine.

Over the last few years we have been tracking a trend in the submissions to this sub, where users were repeatedly submitting the same image, every 3 months, like clockwork. It should be noted that 3 months is the minimum amount of time according to the EarthPorn rules between posts, unless a submission makes it into the top 100 of all time.

Historically the 3 months/top 100 rule came was initiated by /u/syncretic, the creator of this subreddit (and many others.) At the time, a decade ago, there was little in the way of OC being posted here. Indeed, many of the photos posted here were completely unsourced, and without information...no respect to the original photographer at all. I'm as guilty as anyone of this; there were a handful of submitters who posted pretty much every day in order to build the subreddit up and gain more subscribers. I never gave the idea of crediting the original photographer a second thought, until I became one myself. Once I realized how I felt when someone else posted my work without providing credit, I discussed with my fellow EarthPorn mods to require credit for everything posted here that wasn't original content being submitting by the photographer.

I promised this would be quick and so far its life story....

Anyway so the problem is that we have people posting here that while they are following the rules they are arent really participating in the spirit of fairness. Therefore the new rules are as follows:

OC photographs submitted to EarthPorn may not be reposted if they have received over 20,000 karma from a previous submission.

in addition:

OC photographs, once posted and having received under 20,000 karma, may be reposted, but only after two years since the previous submission date.

Thats all I got for now.

Be sure to check out our best of 2021 post, coming along in the next few days. This one will be stickied for the next month or so to let everyone get up to speed.

Thanks and have a happy and healthy holiday season.

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[–]otwkme 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Crap. Now Iceland is going to be jam packed with people trying to get pictures for /r/EarthPorn

[–].soupyhands[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I feel like we should hit them up for sponsorship considering how many pics from there hit our frontpage. /s

[–]franklinsteinnn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nice, I like these rules.

[–].nseled 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't understand. I just posted a picture I took six or seven years ago. And I am sure that I followed all the instructions. So why does it get deleted and also affect my karma?

[–].soupyhands[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Hi nseled! Dont worry, this message does not mean that your post is removed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/comments/rltpfi/jiuzhaigou_sichuan_china_a_photo_taken_years_ago/hpi26en/

I assume this is the message you are referencing?

[–].nseled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification. Yeah. My post is still there.

[–]JerryRome 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with these rules everyone deserves a fair shot

[–]lutsius-memes 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Seems logical but im very curious how they are gonna enforce this. You talk about alot of pictures

[–].soupyhands[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

typically the photos I'm talking about have done very well here, and even under the existing rules they would get reported to the mods for being reposts. It wont be too tricky to catch them.

[–].cosmopolitaine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hi, I have a question that might seem to be nitpicking here but I just want to better understand the rule. Hope you don’t mind it.

So something I typically do is tune a photo into different versions, for example, a lighter version and a darker version, a softer version and a more contrasting version. I’m wondering if two of these photo counts as the same photo?

Also, by extension, I’ve seen on this sub pictures which are substantially altered/photoshopped (not something that I do, but I do like some of those) Does these photoshopped pictures and the originals count as the same?

It would be nice if we have a clause for substantially similar pictures, but it seems that that would be very hard to enforce since it requires human to identify/decide whether 2 pictures are similar (enough) to remove a post and could cause potential frustrations.

[–].t0asti[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, so far we havent seen this happening much, I think I see a handful of users per year that do something like that, if at all. So I would just let it slide. If it becomes the new meta to slightly change a photo to intentionally go around the repost rule we will probably address it. Similarly we're only making the changes in this post because we've seen multiple users abuse the system.

[–]acebush1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What’s with the megaphone for the sub picture?

[–]Misanthrope-_- 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Probably because no one really actually clicks on the sub. This post never made it to a lot of people even though this is a pinned post (I'm basing this on the number of upvotes). Hence, they thought about changing the sub icon to let people know there's an announcement. That's the same way I ended up here.

[–]acebush1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. I bet you’re right

[–]kaytbug86 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Does the karma of 20k count as total karma from all posts of the same image, or from a singular post?

Because this ish is a wee bit annoying.

[–].t0asti[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Singular post; however with the new rules they wont able to post it again until 2 years are over, which should cut down on this quite a lot.

[–]kaytbug86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fantastic. Thank you for the clarification.

[–]Iagospeare 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Are there any plans to limit the heavy editing done to photos? Or is there another sub that would exclude heavily edited photos?

[–].soupyhands[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

this is an artistic photography subreddit. Editing is allowed.

you might want to look at /r/landscapephotography instead.

[–]lorhof1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what happened to the sub icon tho?

[–]📷dheera 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately this doesn't give everyone a fairer shot, because every time you post you are also at the whim of Reddit's shitty "AI" to decide whether or not to show your submission in peoples' individual feeds and trending notifications. I've posted the same image twice before once to receive 30 likes and another to receive 8000. Same exact image, Reddit's AI feeling different one day vs. another deciding whether or not to actually show it to people.