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DRAMAGEDDON 3 MEGATHREAD 15 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]DaviemooiS IN a DaRK PLaCE 263 points264 points  (0 children)

"Fools!" screamed Voldemorphe, clutching at his 11 inch mink feather brush, "How could you let James Charles escape! He's just a little makeup twink and I AM THE DARK LORD OF EYESHADOW!". The rest of the breath eaters cowered in the corner, but Shane "Wormhair" Dawson crept forward, hands clutched and shoulders bowed. "P..P..Please my lord" he whispered, "he blinded us with highlight".

Voldemorphe stopped and turned slowly, but didn't lower the brush.

"Oh", he said, his voice deceptively sweet, "and what type of highlighter was it" he asked.

Wormhair spluttered. "I.. I..I dont know my lord" he said.

"LIAR" screamed Voldemorphe.

Wormhair shrieked, "i'm sorry my lord... it was FENTY BEAUTY"- but his cry was lost as voldemorph screamed "Dragcamera Shablamra!" and a flash of green, glittering light lanced across the room and sent Wormhair spinning from the open window.

Edit: thank you for the awards :D

DRAMAGEDDON 3 MEGATHREAD 15 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]meowmeow1887 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Charts showing the comment accumulation and comments per day on BGC of D2 vs K1 megathreads. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pnqfbfdl-1EmP0ModBj2NDBLurWGVzzf/view?usp=sharing

We're at almost the same number of total comments, however D2 was approx 10 days while K1 is continuing at day 21/22.

The pattern of comments per day/thread is very different.

{notes: start date of thread is used as the day and total thread comment number used. I couldn't find a way to count per day for multi thread days. }

Manny MUA Opens a Mystery Box That Laura Lee Sends Him by diassaid0 in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]tyallie 171 points172 points  (0 children)

I just checked her Twitter. She doesn't seem to have said anything in her own words (unsure if she said anything in a video) but she has retweeted a lot of information, including petitions to sign, support for protests, support for arresting the cops who killed people. I noticed she has retweeted a lot of black people in particular, as well as others from the beauty community. To me this says she has shown support and used her platform to spread info, but has not made it about herself or her experience.

Dramageddon 3: Megathread 14 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ShelliePancake 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Derek Van Sheik posted a video going over the body language of Tati in her video and Shanes livestream reaction. He points out moments Tati is genuine and Shane is panicked and angry, leading to his belief Shane's angry the blackmail they have on Tati didn't silence her

https://youtu.be/8hi2oqrqLDs

Samantha Ravndahl recently posted this powerful picture on Instagram 😍 (NFSW) by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]Luna_Artemus 870 points871 points 2 (0 children)

This isn't about her attractiveness. You people who are complaining because you perceive her as attractive are missing the point and the fact that you saw this and the only thought you had was about her physical appearance are misogynist. When people look at women they don't see a human with a soul and a personality, they see their attractiveness first and go on from there. So you saw this and instead of thinking of any other connotations about this post, you just saw a pretty girl and was angered. We can't win. If we're pretty we are torn down, especially if we are confident. If we are ugly then we are torn down, especially if we are confident.. if we are naked we are torn down, if we are modest we are torn down.

This post was powerful to me because she is baring almost all confidently but not for the male gaze. The human body is not inherently sexual. Men and society hate the idea of a woman being naked and not naked FOR THEM. I know this will get buried at this point but god damn. Next time don't beat around the bush and just say you hate women.

Wayne Goss on the beauty community by sally_burns in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]cub4n4 -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

don’t diss it just because you can’t afford it. luxury items aren’t cheap.

Samantha Ravndahl recently posted this powerful picture on Instagram 😍 (NFSW) by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]peanut_pusher 1332 points1333 points  (0 children)

You guys, really??? These comments are trash.

So men are allowed to consume and enjoy women’s sexuality but when a women takes back her OWN expression of her sexuality, it’s “vain” and “attention seeking”??

Women’s sexuality has both bees suppressed and exploited by OTHERS since.. forever?? It doesn’t matter what the intent of this post was!! Who cares if she wanted attention?? The point is that she’s expressing her sexuality according to HER own agenda, not anyone else’s. She’s taking back her sexuality which has been robbed of women since the beginning of fucking time.

I don’t care what the motive is, I will always support women taking back their right to express their sexuality however they fucking want.

DRAMAGEDDON 3 MEGATHREAD 13 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]SquirrelGirl313 64 points65 points  (0 children)

I mostly watch True Crime on YT, so my feed is normally filled with missing or deceased people.

I just realized it still is because J* is missing and SD's career is deceased.

Edited to add: Wow, thank you for the award, my first ever 💛💛

Looking for Lesbian or Queer Women BeautyInfluencers? by steelpussy in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]steelpussy[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Because as a queer woman married to another woman with a child, sometimes it’s nice to watch someone apply makeup and make comments I can relate to in a personal level. I grew up in the Deep South, completely alone and once I found the queer community it was amazing. Sometimes it’s nice to have a moment of connection with someone because they relate to you even in a small way. To say such an ignorant statement proves to me you’ve never lost a job even though you’re good at it, for being gay, had to travel out of state to get married even though you should be able to, because you’re gay, pay a lawyer to legally adopt a child you have birth to with your legally married partner, because you’re gay. None would ever know I’m a married lesbian mother, but in the daily tedium of my daily life it effects me constantly more than one would think, in micro aggressions such as what you’ve just said. But thanks for commenting and helping the process, instead of keeping it to yourself.

Salty Saturday - Venting is good for the soul by AutoModerator in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]neowie 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The best way to eat healthy, in my experience, is to cook at home and snack at home, where I have only healthy options and maybe one or two unhealthy snacks, so I have a limited selection.

I also use staple ingredients when I cook rather than premixes as often as possible. My "hamburger helper" spice mix is just as tasty as the box mix but has a lot less salt in it. The only premixes I buy are sauces like mayo (though I know how to make my own, in a pinch) hot sauce and BBQ sauce. I make my own salad dressings (oil + vinegar + spices + pinch of salt or mayo/sour cream + spices).

I make healthy food purchases and choices by:

  • eating before grocery shopping

  • making a list of items to buy and not deviating. I check the house before going out grocery shopping to see if I need to stock up on toilet paper, laundry detergent, etc. Even if it's on sale, if its not on my list than I don't need it, don't have room for it, and I'm not going to buy it. Chances are good it will be on sale again when I need to buy it. Add ingredients to make snacks, too. Nuts, popping corn...

  • shopping with a buddy: with your partner or if you have a kid, bring them, even a friend. The reasoning here is that you don't want to waste their time, so you don't meander through the aisles, which means you aren't tempted to buy unhealthy snacks.

  • give yourself allowance for one treat on a shopping trip. When I shop with my husband, we are each allowed one treat, he will (almost) always go for digestive biscuits because he loves those, and I'll go for cookies or a tube of chips.

  • when you buy a treat for yourself, recognize that you probably only need a taste of the treat to satisfy. I justify buying a tube of chips (like Pringles) over a bag of chips because they don't get crushed on the walk home, but mostly because I'll feel less guilty eating a tube of chips than an entire bag of chips.

  • learn to make delicious snacks, guacamole is easy as pie to make, you just need a ripe avocado, a knife to cut it, and a fork to mash it.

  • Learn how many ingredients are in our snack foods. Have you ever made chips before? All you need is a potato cut thinly, oil, salt, a paper towel, a plate and a microwave. You'll be surprised to learn how many whole potatoes are actually in a bag of chips.

  • My family and I sit down every Saturday morning and plan our meals for the week: breakfast, lunches, dinners. We are realistic, we know from experience after cooking two labour intensive meals, we'll want a break, so we might make a simple salad with a protein for dinner, a pasta-soup. During the lock down, we've been theming our meals, one week was Wuhan week (we made dishes from the Hubei area), another was light cooking week (we made vichyssoise, gazpacho, sushi, pad thai...). I use this meal plan to develop the shopping list. It also keeps us on task to actually cook after a long day, and we don't get bored by eating the same thing day after day.

  • We try to make breakfasts and lunches for weekdays all at once. We have mason jars that we put our breakfasts into - Chia seeds in coconut milk "pudding" topped with granola, yogurt with homemade rhubarb syrup (that was last week's breakfast), fruit salad, oatmeal with cinnamon, brown sugar and walnuts, etc... Lunches go into to-go boxes so it's easy to grab on our way out the door. Sundays are our meal prep days. Usually takes about 2 hours to make dinner + make and pack 5 days of lunches & breakfasts. Everyone helps with packing the meals afterwards.

  • Keep the healthy snacks closer to eye/hand level when you're putting them away. Any snacks that you don't want to be eating, honestly, throw them away, or incorporate them into something else. Chips are actually pretty tasty in hermit cookies. And I can really only eat two of those before it's too much, also that leads me to...

  • and finally, portion-control. Don't take the snack bag and start eating directly from it, not only is it gross to put your eating utencil (hand) from your mouth directly into a communal container that others use, but it also becomes a repetitive meditative motion that you stop thinking about, so you're not aware of how much you are eating until you're scraping for crumbs. Instead, take a bowl, I use a small dessert bowl, my husband uses a soup bowl, and put your snack in there, then put the snack bag back on the shelf, and eat from your bowl.

We also rarely eat out, making delicious food at home makes eating out less exciting. We only eat out when we're too exhausted to cook (or we're on vacation and we don't have access to a kitchen), and try to limit meals out to once or twice a month. It's actually a lot easier to do in lockdown since we can only buy takeout, and not everything travels well to take home.

Edited: One more thing to add: we didn't start doing all this at once. We started with making dinner every night, then meal planning, then shopping lists, then portion control, then planning where to store items. It didn't happen overnight, in fact, we started with challenging ourselves with meal goals back in 2008 to cook 3 dinners a week, then 5, then 6, then have a vegetarian week, then a week cooking with something we've never eaten before, limiting our meal budget to $75 for a week, etc... So don't feel you need to change everything all at once. See which goals you could meet, and reward yourself for meeting them - could be a trip to the zoo, or first person to meet their goal gets to divy up chores for the next week. If a goal was met, and you enjoyed the process consider incorporating it into your routine. Make a change here and there and keep at it until it's second nature and easy, than add a new goal, and eventually you'll feel a lot healthier and you'll be happy with your lifestyle, and you'll find you don't even want to revert to past unhealthy patterns. Just be patient with yourself, make a list of goals, talk it over with your partner and family (if you have one) because everyone in the home has to be on board.

Also, we track our household budget and goals on a Google spreadsheet, and our shopping list and meal plan in Google Keep, so that it's viewable and modifiable by everyone we shared it with.

Good luck, you've got this! 😋

Dramageddon 3: Megathread 14 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]franchik96i’m sister suing 251 points252 points  (0 children)

Unpopular opinion: while I don’t mind men in the beauty community, I think that the place needs to be radically rethought. I don’t mind guy MUAs by trade (like Robert Welsh, not “I worked at MAC and that’s it”). Whether we acknowledge it or not, the vast majority of people who wear makeup are not in this space and have limited applicability. JS and Manny shittalking neutrals palettes to me is fundamentally upsetting because I’m sorry, I can’t wear bright blue or pink eyeshadow to law school everyday. I’m sorry it doesn’t fit your absolute niche. Should there be spaces for more creative makeup and makeup for performers like in drag? Absolutely but that’s not the main demographic. “Dead” brands still thrive because they give good basics and it sells. My mom can’t wear pink eyeshadow to work, and full coverage matte foundations aren’t seen as work-friendly in most places. Makeup in its modern form was a burden placed on women, and a fair amount of women decided to embrace it in a way that is fun. But unless it is equally socially unacceptable for me and a guy to go to work with acne showing and no concealer, I don’t want guys imposing what makeup works for them and half the brands in Ulta turning their heads. I think that’s why a lot of these booty gurus don’t touch skincare, it’s because they can’t push their limited understanding of it! I want dudes into makeup to have that freedom and have representation, but there needs to be some understanding of the space. I like Wayne Goss in general as someone with makeup advice, that’s it basically. But I really feel like “love people and all will improve” is beyond privileged. I can still hold empathy but want to hold people accountable. And who is defended in these things? White guys. And furthermore, implicit homophobia: why are no lesbians propped up as much in the beauty space? They exist! But no, so many of these gurus would rather appease straight fans than uphold other LBT creators (for context I’m a lesbian, I love makeup, and I’m sick of being actively ignored in favor of superficial allies). When is the last time somebody gave the “love each other” thing about Huda, Jaclyn, Norvina (I know they’re all really problematic but that’s the point).

Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star Megathread 4 by Brittle_PandaGet Better Role Models in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]Lysistrata-b 1054 points1055 points  (0 children)

I see many people here confused and questioning what is going on, because they never really paid attention to Dramageddon I or II. So here is a summary

· Jeffree Star collaborated with most known beauty influencers over the past few years (Nickie, James Charles, Tati, Manny, Laura lee). A few of them he called “friends” and showered with gifts, up until some of them launched their own makeup companies.

· He is known for his controversial past which sometimes becomes an obstacle to his career. So in 2018 he approached Shane to fix his image as he did with other influencers (e.g. Tana).

· Shane did a series of videos showcasing his vast wealth and justifying his past behavior and bigotry. He even made everybody feel sorry for him after revealing his past self-harm tendencies! While they filmed they decided to launch a palette together and film the whole thing.

· Right after the videos launched, Manny, Laura, Gabriel and Nikita, all former friends of JS, posted this tweet “"Bitch is bitter because without him we’re doing better.” And the world cancelled them in many levels that are painful to describe. That was Dramageddon I

· In February 2019 James Charles and Jeffree flew all the way to Seattle to attend a surprise birthday party for Tati. There, James meets and flirts with a young waiter who is straight (or not?)

· In May 2019 Tati had a meltdown on IG because her friend James Charles apparently had promoted sleeping pills of a company that is competitor to Tati’s own brand (she sells vitamins)

· At the same time Shane was filming the collaboration palette with Jeffree and they had become close. Tati went to them crying over her tragedy and bitching about James and sought advice from Shane.

· A few days later Tati launches the “Bye Sister” video while Shane gulps Tati’s vitamis on IG promoting her. The video addresses the Seattle incident and paints James as a “predator” who preys on straight young men. Jeffree tweets “He is a danger to society” and claims he has proof to back this allegation!

· The world cancels James. He loses 3 million subs while Tati almost gains 5 million subscribers and her pill business explodes. James thinks of ending his life but snaps out of it and posts the "No more lies" video which absolves him of everything (Note in 27:43 a message from Jeffree that involves Shane!).

· Both Tati and Jeffree post crappy apologies and never really address anything or show any proof of said allegations. That was Dramageddon II

Last October Shane launches a 6 part series on the secrets of the Beauty World. On the trailer he teases content related to the James' drama. Everybody is waiting for the juicy details behind the scenes of how Dramagedon II really went down, since he filmed the whole thing from his and Jeffree's perspective. He gets millions of views and they both sell millions of products. But the series proved to be nothing more than an infomercial for makeup products and Shane's new merch. They never gave any details of what really happened or evidence on the alleged predatory behavior.

· Right before Tati launches her own makeup company Jeffree unfriends her (shocking)!

· Recently James surpasses Jeffree in sub count. Jeffree starts bitching about James yet again and blames Tati for everything. His involvement with Dahvie Vanity, a sexual predator of underage girls, is exposed, as well as more evidence of his racist past. He launches a “Cremated palette” in the midst of the pandemic. Tati disappears after apparently receiving backlash nobody even noticed!

· The BLM movement causes some former friends of JS to come forward and speak their truth about his racist and discriminatory behavior. He loses subs. Shane loses subs. They do a relaunch. It doesn’t go well.

· Shane tries to salvage the situation by “addressing” Dramageddon II and blames everybody else but himself (big mistake), while still supporting his business partner JS whom he calls his family.

· And here we are in the midst of Dramageddon III or Karmageddon?

Update: Shane posts an apology video after receiving backlash when many clips of him using blackface and making jokes about pedophilia resurface and circulate around social media.

A video of Shane Dawson pretending to m@sturbate to a picture of willow smith resurfaces. The Smith family reacts to it. Shane receives his share of the "humble pie" and goes on to privatize his old channel "ShaneDawsonTV".

Blaire White tries to deflect attention from her friend Shane and posts a video claiming she heard the voice memo from the "alleged victim" of James Charles while face-timing with Jeffree Star. She says she finds it credible, but provides no proof of it's existence.

As of June 28th the story has hit mainstream media, while both Target and Morphe remove Shane's products from their shelves and online shops. Morphe defends their decision to keep Jeffree's products.

On June 30th Tati finally "breaks her silence" like a kid, who finally says while crying: "they made me do it" pointing the finger to Shane and Jeffree.

We watch Snane falling apart while watching Tati's video and Jeffree's day off, taking pictures with fans and buying a new car!

edit: added links and some updates

DRAMAGEDDON 3 MEGATHREAD 13 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]freywalshhenleyFuzzy Gloves 196 points197 points  (0 children)

Soooo it’s been a couple days, think we can trey Ryland now?

DRAMAGEDDON 3 MEGATHREAD 13 by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]FreckleException 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any recommendations? I have a couple protein treatments on hand and I think a Henna & Placenta mask, but it's been a while since I've had the bleach crunchies because I'm a blonde that dyes my hair darker, lol.

Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star Megathread 4 by Brittle_PandaGet Better Role Models in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]billnaisciguy🤡 transcended clownery to M I M E 🤡 1271 points1272 points 2& 5 more (0 children)

Last year Tati, a make up guru on YouTube, posted a video called bye sister which kicked off a scandal which caused the largest loss of subscribers in the shortest amount of time in YouTube history. She kicked off a series of allegations against another beauty guru called James Charles, a young (19 at the start of this) beauty guru who is extremely popular. She doesn’t have a history of drama so everyone believed her. Things escalated in a large way Jeffree star inserted himself and made several very serious allegations related to sexual assault towards James Charles. Things died down when James got himself together and came with proof that Tati and Jeffree were lying/exaggerating. And it all came to a sudden halt. But things have been building from then.

Jeffree Star, a prominent make up guru and owner of his own make up company(and someone who inserts himself in drama), and Shane Dawson, another prominent YouTuber, created a make up palette together called the Conspiracy Palette. There was a large series dedicated to the creating of it and Shane included clips from the “bye sister scandal” to boost viewership and feed off the drama. And at the last minute all the drama behind the scenes was cut from the series. This was suspicious, but people kind of let it slide. His palette did incredibly well and that was that.

Except it wasn’t.

Fast forward to March of this year.

A whole host of things have started to leak out about Jeffree. It started when his affiliation with a singer named Dahvie came under fire. This is years old at this point but VERY serious*. Dahvie has sexually assaulted YOUNG girls (think 10-11 young) when he was in his 20s, Jeffree allegedly witnessed some of these assaults. So Jeffree did an interview with Chris Hansen and said he was lying back in the day about seeing this happen(or that it was the metaphorical “we saw things” not the literal we) and then he went to another interview with keemstar where he contradicted himself and proceeded to bring up James Charles and how he still thought James Charles was a predator and he had proof to that effect.

A commentary make up channel by the name Liam mcevoy released two separate videos giving evidence that he dug up from the bowels of the internet that Jeffree Star.... is a lot worse than most people knew. Including sexual assault, possible rape allegations, him posting up revenge porn, and him creating a brand called lipstick nazi that had nazi imagery. Which isn’t even everything.

Then a former model for Jeffree came out and said he believed jeffeee planned what happened to James with Shane Dawson because they were acting shady months before Tati released her video.

Then a former friend of Jeffree’s came out and said that he talked shit about everyone including his closest friends.

And then a drama channel came out with receipts to show Jeffree fed her false info to use for her videos. She trusted him and his info at the time and now she regrets that.

And then another drama channel came out. And another. Etc etc.

Jeffree “addressed” it. Which means he gave excuses and lied about the extent of his old brand lipstick nazi and ducked under explaining anything about the serious issues he is accused of.

He copyright struck liams videos, which is very serious. You can get sued for doing a false copyright strike and you can also get someone’s account terminated on YouTube if you copyright strike them enough. It also proved that the things Liam dug up were enough to make Jeffree sweat.

And then Shane released the statements on Twitter saying he’s “”leaving the beauty world”” Everyone believed these were damage control for more information coming out.

And that’s where we are currently. Good luck keeping up fam. We move fast in these parts.

Update from 6/27 on:

Tati since then has released several more Vague tweets with song lyrics. No one is super sure of her motive or what it means.

Shane Dawson has had number videos of him from his own channels and from other specials including him (including behind the scenes stuff of his film) as well as podcasts reposted on twitter. None of this was private or hidden, but much of it flew under the radar since it was from a few years back. A short list of the things which have been showcased is: Extremely violent thoughts spoken aloud by Shane about a woman who gave him criticism, talking with his young cousin (13 at the time) about sex acts and her period as well as having her perform sex acts on a food item (I think a cocktail weenie???), Jokes about finding a 6 year old sexy-- and just a lot of other things. I haven't watched them all, I don't think anyone needs to.

In the middle of this, Jenna Marbles (another popular youtuber who has been friends with Shane for 10 or so years) made a video apologizing for subject matter in her previous videos and said that she felt her channel was harming people. She felt her best course of action was to private many of her older videos which could be seen as offensive/regressive/harmful as well as deciding to leave youtube and her channel as a whole behind. It doesn't seem like she has plans on returning at the moment. Many suspect this is due in part to everything going on with Shane and Jeffree Star as Jenna has been close with Shane (I don't know if anyone knows the extent) and she had been receiving backlash for promoting his restocks on her IG. She also briefly addressed that people were upset with her affiliation/friendships with people and that she had tried to judge people on their current actions-- but she never made any solid statement on the .... situation. Another factor is that Jenna is also friends with James Charles and is one of the few big Youtubers who had not distanced herself from him during the "bye sister" scandal and given all of this was kicked up around that-- it could also be playing a part.

(IMPORTANT NOTE: Jenna made it very clear that this was her own decision. She was not leaving because of cancel culture or anything like that. She was leaving because she wanted to take ownership of the hurt she believed her channel and platform was spreading. This is why she is unsure if she wants to return to her channel ever given what had been on there in the past. I do not think that what is going on with Shane and Jeffree is "the reason" she left, it's just important to note the context around it)

The next day Shane released an apology video, referencing Jenna's video as inspiration/a sign from god and addressed some of the videos which have been coming out about him. He said he had a rough home life and was closeted and his family was okay with the jokes he made with his cousin. He also cited humor as a coping mechanism and stated he hated that version of himself.

Many are questioning the authenticity of this apology given that he referenced Jenna's. Jenna's apology was well-received and his...... has not been.

Jeffree and Tati have both remained MIA.

One of the many many many clips of Shane to be brought up from the depths was one of him pretending to jerk off to a poster of Willow Smith(will smith’s daughter) a few years back. She was only 11 at the time. These clips reached the hands of her brother Jaden Smith and her mother Jada Pinkett Smith. Jaden tweeted out an enraged response, also pointing out Shane’s history of using black face in his videos. Jada is using mad disappointed mom energy.

On 06/28 Blair White(another youtuber who has a questionable reputation) has released a video stating that Jeffree Star has been spreading the testimony of alleged victims of sexual assault as gossip and black mail. She said that this happened within the space of their first conversation over facetime. She specified he said that “(Said youtuber) will not come against me because I have dirt on him” regarding the victim’s testimony. As of right now I don’t want to list any of the alleged attackers or victims because that was not her reasoning on making the video. She wanted to show that Jeffree is spreading someone else’s story as gossip and black mail. Not just against the alleged attackers, but against the person who now has knowledge of what he said and shared. It makes the listener unintentionally complicit in his story where you either spread misinformation without any evidence or you are possibly protecting a predator.

AGAIN. Let me bold this point. If what Blair is saying is true, either Jeffree Star is spreading a lie around with very serious consequences for the accused and one which he could be creating false evidence for-- OR he is using a victim’s story, who isn’t comfortable with speaking out on their attack at all, as black mail and gossip with other people to gain power.

Jeffree Star is a predator either way if these claims are true.

She claims to have heard a voice memo of a victim’s testimony, but she did not record the conversation.

ETA: I have made a cheat sheet of characters and some of the weird complexities of the different relationships and cliques in this link here. It's still long.

Chloe Morello likes a transphobic(?) tweet by milleytech3 in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]lipscratchGibby 823 points824 points  (0 children)

this thread is disgusting. honestly, truly, fuck y'all. trans women are women, period. they are women who need us, as women. if you are turning your back on trans women you are not a feminist and you are not someone who cares about women. if a cis woman was born infertile, without a uterus, etc. she would still be a woman to y'all. if a woman is born with a penis that doesn't make her a man. you're reducing someone entirely to their genitalia. trans women are not men dressing up in costumes to prey on you. trans women are women, period. they need us. fuck you. fuck your exclusionary, transmisogynistic bullshit. trans women are in incredible danger. have some empathy. if you, as a woman, was still you but born with a penis, how would you feel?

trans women are not men who decided to be women. they aren't men dressing up as women. they aren't women who used to be men. they were always women. they were never cis men. the terf problem in this sub is ever fucking present, i see. don't reply to me with your bullshit about why trans women shouldn't be allowed to be in women's spaces, even though they are women. i really don't care what you have to say. you're a transphobe, period

KARMAGEDDON MEGATHREAD 12: TATI VS JEFFREE STAR AND SHANE DAWSON by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]IStoleTheSweetrolls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess Shane's apology was fine too then. He looked straight at the camera and said he was sorry a dozen times. Oh, but then he turned around and blamed past trauma, just like Tati turned around and blamed ShaneStar, so it rings a little disingenuous. She did everything she could to downplay her own involvement in the making of her own damn video.

KARMAGEDDON MEGATHREAD 12: TATI VS JEFFREE STAR AND SHANE DAWSON by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]riplootcrate 148 points149 points  (0 children)

i’ve been scrolling through this thread a ton over the past few days and as a young black girl, some of y’all comments about how its “no big deal that tati didn’t say anything about blm” are acting really disheartening and hurtful. Tati has a big platform, she can shill all day about her vitamins and post cryptic song tweets but can’t say a single thing about BLM? This directly involves racism and she can’t say shit about it? not a single tweet or instagram post or anything? I hate shame and jafar as much as the next and fuck them but i can’t stand by tati not using her platform to help the movement.

white silence equals white consent

KARMAGEDDON 2020 MEGATHREAD 11: TATI VS JEFFREE STAR AND SHANE DAWSON by BGCMODBGCr GROUP MOD ACCT in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]PAZZESKAYou-Know-Who-Star ✨🤡 169 points170 points  (0 children)

“You-Know-Who-Star? Some say he was canceled. Codswallop, in my opinion. Dunno if he had enough human left to be canceled. Some say he’s still out there, bidin’ his time.”

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[–]trollboogies 508 points509 points  (0 children)

All that hate and misogyny is gonna knock Ryan's hairline back another 2 inches

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[–]billnaisciguy🤡 transcended clownery to M I M E 🤡 285 points286 points  (0 children)

Y’all. I’m out here wondering what the fuck people wanted Tati to do or what they believe she wanted to achieve with her video. Shane has started to unravel in the past few weeks since his good soft boy reputation has started to peel back. His narc rage is a reaction to being revealed to be a hefty bag filled with racism, sexualizing of minors, and just garbage in general.

Tati has been hemorrhaging followers for more than a year. She called out the fact that she received the bulk of the backlash last year even as it became clear that something else was going on with J*.

I am not sure what entirely her motive is in posting her video yesterday, but I also find it hard to believe that she thought this would bring her good press

And honestly??? The way these mega threads have switched from people posting crap about Shane Dawson and his past videos and lamenting that J* is gonna slip away again... to people attempting to discredit Tati because she didn’t create this video the way they wanted to????

Isn’t that proving the point? We were all about ending jafar shitstains career until that fucking upstart Tati opened her mouth. Because surely you all, as people on reddit, can judge whether she can actually bring her case (with evidence and witnesses you cannot possibly know about) to court. Like. The reaction is to SHAME her for coming forward and speaking on being a victim because we don’t approve of her being a victim. Like... cool I’m sure people’s reaction to this is definitely gonna help others be comfortable about their honest interactions with jeffree.

And you don’t need to like or believe her. You can question her motives and if what she’s saying is true everyone is allowed to do that but when the focus was on Shane people kept saying “we need to focus on jeffree guys!!! He’s getting away” and so Tati came out and said “hey guys. We need to focus on jeffree because he’s did this to me and everyone else” and people just go “nah. Let’s all talk about how you aren’t doing enough right now and that you have the nerve to say anything in an event which you were the catalyst for. Sit down woman”

And then if you dare say “hey excuse me. I think you are missing the point” you are gonna get a response of “TATI NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IM NOT SURE WHY PEOPLE THINK SHES A SAINT OR AN INNOCENT ANGEL MARTYR” like...

I don’t know guys

Like. Jesus. This is depressing. This is a microcosm of everything that leaves people like jeffree and Shane go untouched. Like legitimately I’m not sure how to feel about people in this community about this.

This shit was a fun place to hang out and make up shitty names about racists until Tati posted. I know I probably got way too enmeshed in watching all this unfold. I’m gonna take a break from this until one of the Racist and Racister posts.

And a quick edit to mention, this is also me worn down after seeing people melt down over tlou2 like a 2 year old when it’s clear that a lot of people are pissed that the two leads are women and women who don’t have their tits out and dare to not be pleasing to the eye. Like. People wants to point to everything else but then you see the memes shutting on them for not being women on THEIR terms.

But cool sure let’s scream about how she dared mention her vitamins

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[–]sirgawain2 869 points870 points 2 (0 children)

Evil makeup man and sad youtube hobo (both flaming racists) manipulated fairly well respected snake oil saleswoman with soft demeanor to expose a big headed 19 year old as a supposed “sexual predator.”

Turns out evil makeup man and sad youtube hobo manipulated snake oil saleswoman lady (which everyone can believe because evil makeup man is evil) in a plot to take down the big headed 19 year old for stepping on their toes and being more popular and well liked than them.

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[–]acg115 267 points268 points  (0 children)

I owe you all an apology. I was wrong and I’m sincerely sorry to all those whom I have hurt by my past statements. Last week, I said there was no way Tati would release a video of her side. I called you all fools. There is no excuse for the horrible lies I said. I take full accountability for everything, and I am committed to learning more and reflecting on my past mistakes and using my platform in the future to support the people I have hurt. I hope you can forgive me, but I completely understand if you no longer wish to support me. I think we all just need time to heal.