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中共历史书隐瞒了中共早期实际被苏联控制了近20年这个事实 by langchaolee in China_irl

[–]zhuquanzhong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

又来了,典中典之提线木偶论,早期再怎么是苏联赞助的也改变不了中共后来在毛泽东的领导下跟苏共闹掰了的事实,也改变不了苏联影响被毛泽东逐步彻底肃清的事实。列宁还是德皇放回来的,华盛顿还是法国赞助的,难道拿援助就成恩情利滚利还不完了?

nm金日成这个真·苏联扶上位的都把朝鲜苏联派给彻底毁灭了,这有啥好隐瞒的,共产党得天下的时候苏联派早就名存实亡了,到了文革剩下的也一锅端,毛死后中国除了陈云连一个亲苏的都没了。

You could have had Patriots. You could have had F-35s... by OldStray79 in NonCredibleDefense

[–]zhuquanzhong 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I discussed this on the Chinese internet and a bunch of people think that from the long term perspective its actually a good deal for Turkey because they are now forced to develop their own 5th gen fighter (with actually moderate success in doing so). Granted it will probably be inferior to the F-35 but it gives them experience in building aircraft.

WW3 officially begins (2020) “the looming threat alternate history” by Immediate-Chef8883 in imaginarymaps

[–]zhuquanzhong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no way Vietnam is going against China and Russia. People keep overestimating the tension between China and Vietnam's governments. At best they'd be neutral. (As long as in your timeline South Vietnam didn't win the war)

What if our world time-traveled to the 1800's? Europe and Asia following the Russo-Ukrainian war of 1822. by m_yu2125 in imaginarymaps

[–]zhuquanzhong 11 points12 points  (0 children)

慶豐 Qingfeng literally means "Celebrating harvest". It came from the name of a restaurant that Xi ate at early in his tenure and simply stuck. Usually era names are just auspicious compounds of two (rarely also four) Chinese characters chosen by the emperor to represent periods of his reign with some emperors having only one and others having multiple. Examples of real era names in Chinese history are 元狩 Yuanshou "Primal hunt" 永昌 Yongchang "Eternally prosperous" 洪武 Hongwu "Grandly martial" 乾隆 Qianlong "Celestial rise" 大象 Daxiang "Grand appearance" 開皇 Kaihuang "Establishing the emperor" 天寶 "Heavenly treasure" 永樂 Yongle "Eternal rejoicing" etc.

What if our world time-traveled to the 1800's? Europe and Asia following the Russo-Ukrainian war of 1822. by m_yu2125 in imaginarymaps

[–]zhuquanzhong 225 points226 points  (0 children)

Very nice and interesting. Minor correction: in imperial East Asian culture, it was absolutely inappropriate to refer to a sitting monarch by personal name because the name was taboo. In addition, in the case of China (but not Korea) the dynasty would not be named after the sitting monarch's surname. If Xi was emperor, he would be referred as era name + emperor while still alive. For example, say that his era name was Qingfeng 慶豐 (its a common era name given to him by Chinese netizens), he would be refered to as the Qingfeng Emperor. In Korea's case, since according to the map North Korea had declared itself an empire, so it should also have an era name (unlike most Korea states that became Chinese tributaries so they used the Chinese era name). Kim Il-sung would probably be the Juche Emperor and Kim Jong-il the Songun Emperor, but I'm not too sure for Kim Jong-un. I don't know if any appellation is popular over there for him or if his policies have a two syllable slogan, so perhaps Koreans can suggest something.

除了泽连斯基,你还知道哪些乌克兰名人? by theworld1984 in China_irl

[–]zhuquanzhong 32 points33 points  (0 children)

那可多了

托先知、勃勋宗

还有苏联元帅铁木辛哥、马利诺夫斯基、格列契科、莫斯卡连科、叶廖缅科

还有英年早逝的切尔尼亚霍夫斯基大将

不能忘了航天三巨头科罗廖夫、切洛梅、格卢什科

Christian and muslim refugees which settled in and left modern day Turkey during 1912 and 1922 . During the collapse of the Ottoman empire which witnessed the Balkan wars, WW I and the Turkish war of independence. by Yellowapple1000 in MapPorn

[–]zhuquanzhong 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They were fighting to expel foreign armies and also against forces loyal to the Ottoman government which had become puppet to foreign powers after they lost the war.

akwaaaard by taterbot44 in HistoryMemes

[–]zhuquanzhong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The war crimes were a feature, not a bug. Its what happens when your country is run by a death cult.

How deep into the lore are you guys? by samuel_al_hyadya in NonCredibleDefense

[–]zhuquanzhong 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The war was an inside job by Heinrich Himmler to expel both Russia and Ukraine from Crimea and repopulate it with revived Crimean Goths and rebuild the SS Ordenstaat of Theoderichshafen

History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes by CautiousDeparture967 in NonCredibleDefense

[–]zhuquanzhong -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For some reason people keep repeating some talking point that the CCP didn't fight Japan, which is blatantly false as evidenced by events such as the Hundred Regiments offensive. The main reason is that the CCP during the early stages of the war wasn't even strong enough to fight pitched battles, they had like 2 armies of less than 200000 men when the war began and facing the Japs head on then was suicide, so they opted for building guerilla bases. Just as an example, in this video (made by a Taiwanese): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDmvH39WXHw you can see from 9:00 to 12:00 how the CCP was gradually eating away at Japanese controlled territories in central China (they are marked in grey). By the war's end they had 1.2 million men, a result of well planned guerilla campaigns and recruitment.

As a side note, the CCP refused to fight pitched battles even after the Chinese civil war resumed, only beginning to do so once they reached 2 million men in 1947 against the nationalists 4 million.

What the CCP did after they assumed power is irrelevant to the process by which they ascended. Even Chiang himself admitted after his defeat that he was bested fair and square. Saying the CCP did nothing during WW2 and the fought a weakened nationalist government (which isn't even true as the nationalists in 1945 were far, far stronger than the nationalists in 1937) is plain bad history regardless of your view on the CCP itself.

Youtube推薦給我的東西好像怪怪的⋯ by Diligent_Hawk_6329 in China_irl

[–]zhuquanzhong 11 points12 points  (0 children)

原名叫昭和青年之歌,确实符合你搜的“青年 歌啊。

至于226本身,如果你不了解,是1936年日本的一场青年军官领导的军国主义皇道派兵变,类比今天就是北京卫戍区的青年官兵们全部成为入关学信徒,天天高强度阅读曹丰泽语录,然后因为不满当前政府不敢打台湾甚至不敢直接打日本打美国所以冲了中南海,把常委们全部讨死(但不碰主席本人,毕竟要清君侧尊皇讨奸,不能把皇给讨了),然后建立军国主义政权直接去太平洋上干美国,大概就是这个意思。