Cool single take from SPECTRE (2015)

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T20:30:14+00:00

I have been wondering about overall and some contenders are:

Pikachu, Spiderman, Batman, Mario, James Bond, Darth Vader, Harry potter, Superman, Sherlock Holmes, Dracula

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T20:28:18+00:00

Superman is an alien after all which perhaps prevents him from reaching the top 2 status.

Batman is definitely massive and can hold his own against Spiderman. It is noteworthy how big Batman is given how often the media and comics go very dark. Joker, a dark, bleak and depressing movie making a billion speaks to how big the Batman brand is. A Seven-esque Batman film making 750m is also a very impressive result.

I do think its neck and neck overall but Spiderman has the edge in that he is more relatable and the media is more accessible. Teens, kids, young adults and in my experience, even the female demo will naturally be more drawn to Spiderman than Batman.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T20:24:29+00:00

yeah. Sony has handled Spiderman well.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T20:21:40+00:00

Yeah no debate on the top two. Absolute icons both of them. Not just cb characters, both these 2 can stand in the company of the most popular fictional characters of the past century or so.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T20:20:53+00:00

I think Batman gives him a fair fight and I daresay between 2008-2016 Batman might have eclipsed Spiderman in popularity. Homecoming onwards Spiderman regained his top status.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T13:46:42+00:00

You are comparing NWH which was the ultimate compilation of every spidey movie ever to Mario which is the first major Mario movie to date.

Alright, I will give you that NWH was a special event film. But SPiderman (2002) made 825m in 2002. Surely 20 years later that should be between 1.3b-1.5b putting it comparable to Mario.

Mario has sold an average of 20m games per year for 40 years. No other gaming IP even comes close.

Well, when Mario started making games, the comp was way less. But yes it is impressive what they have done. Similar to MCU's sheer dominance between 2012-2021.

I don't think 70 dollar games and books are comparable either but yes HP is also insanely massive.

lol. Mario games were not 70 bucks for a great portion of its run. But what we are comparing is the audience size and cultural presence. price of products should not come into play. Glad you at least identify that Potter is at the same level.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T09:06:03+00:00

Agree to disagree. I am just saying the comparables we have. No Way Home mad 1.9b without China. Mario will struggle to reach 1.4b.

Give me one course where Mario outsold GTA 5 ina single year or even a cod release.

if anything the reddit take here is believing Spiderman is a league above.

Lol, that's a reddit take? Reddit worships gaming man. You new here?

Mario is clearly a brand that is bigger than gaming itself.

What nonsense.

You don't even address Harry Potter. A quick google search shows Mario has sold 826m games from at least 30 games. Whereas Potter books have sold more than 600m units with just 7 books. You can calculate the averages yourself. The most sold Mario game has sold 62m units whereas the most sold Potter book has sold 120m units. And this is not counting how many of these books were shared, pirated pdf files, and book borrowing from libraries around the world.

For a good while Potter became the face of books for a generation. Yet since this is reddit and bros are not well aware of the book world, Potter barely gets a mention here.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T08:23:55+00:00

Nah, gaming has become too big for anyone to be a face of a medium now. Mario was till the 90s or early 2000s. Now COD, GTA, Fortnite, League of Legends & Minecraft regularly outsell Mario. GTA has far surpassed Mario's influence in gaming currently.

Come to think of it, Mario and Spiderman are not even in the same league. Only redditors believe this because reddit is dominared by gamers.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T08:19:42+00:00

lol. There are tons. Come on now. You saying he is the most famous character in existence. Spiderman, Superman & Batman have got multiple decades on him. Multiple decades.

I think Harry Potter too is on Mario's level.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T07:34:08+00:00

They are on reddit. Unfairly so.

Boss452 · 2023-06-04T07:33:10+00:00

Yeah but still hard to beleive Mario is bigger than Spiderman. Like everyone I know, knows Spiderman. Even my grandparents who are not interested in popular media. They dont know about Mario.

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T21:27:43+00:00

The standards are very low it appears if such stuff is considered impressive.

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T17:29:52+00:00

Given the standards of this sub these days, I think it is better than most posts. Like i say above, I liked how the shots are framed and how fluid they make the action seem.

I did post the impressive top shot earlier which was well liked on this sub:

https://old.reddit.com/r/CineShots/comments/13pmj0e/john_wick_chapter_4_2023/

Got a couple more JW4 posts coming up.

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T17:24:22+00:00

Damn you are savage bruh

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T16:58:17+00:00

You mean impressive stuff like this:

https://old.reddit.com/r/CineShots/comments/13yl7jx/platoon_1986_director_oliver_stone/

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T16:49:03+00:00

Yeah true. With the reviews coming in, Elemental seems to be a miss.

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T16:47:48+00:00

Yeah but bringing in merch to box office discussions isn't always helpful. Let's stick to the numbers we have rather than ponder over something we cannot calculate. Sure Disney will be happy with merch sales, but it doesn't sound good when the movie itself does poorly.

Boss452 · 2023-06-03T16:46:40+00:00

Definitely. If Universal and Vin had any dignity and respect for this franchise, they should end it with one more as announced earlier rather thank becoming a joke. This movie is clearly not making any money for the studio. 150m will be a tough drive from here and that is all it will get. This is pathetic.

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